1 00:01:06,350 --> 00:00:00,950 [Music] 2 00:01:10,850 --> 00:01:08,810 hey everyone I'm Bernadette McDaniel and 3 00:01:12,469 --> 00:01:10,860 welcome to the premiere episode of a 4 00:01:15,710 --> 00:01:12,479 paranormal life 5 00:01:17,450 --> 00:01:15,720 on Phantoms and monsters radio 6 00:01:20,390 --> 00:01:17,460 um I'd like to remind you to like 7 00:01:23,330 --> 00:01:20,400 subscribe and share 8 00:01:26,749 --> 00:01:23,340 um our Super Chat is open and tonight we 9 00:01:29,030 --> 00:01:26,759 are interviewing Steve Stockton he is 10 00:01:32,570 --> 00:01:29,040 the host of two YouTube channels 13 past 11 00:01:34,490 --> 00:01:32,580 midnight as well as missing persons uh 12 00:01:37,429 --> 00:01:34,500 Mysteries as well as the author of 13 00:01:39,590 --> 00:01:37,439 various books so I would like to welcome 14 00:01:41,990 --> 00:01:39,600 Steve to the show 15 00:01:44,149 --> 00:01:42,000 hey there Bernadette how you doing good 16 00:01:46,490 --> 00:01:44,159 to be here I didn't know this was the 17 00:01:51,050 --> 00:01:46,500 premiere I wish I had a better act for 18 00:01:52,429 --> 00:01:51,060 you now oh no just me I'm just kidding 19 00:01:55,370 --> 00:01:52,439 we're going to have a great show I'm 20 00:01:57,289 --> 00:01:55,380 excited happy to be here I'm excited to 21 00:02:00,050 --> 00:01:57,299 have you thank you so much again for 22 00:02:02,270 --> 00:02:00,060 doing this so my pleasure 23 00:02:04,609 --> 00:02:02,280 so tell our audience a little bit about 24 00:02:07,069 --> 00:02:04,619 yourself for those who don't know you oh 25 00:02:08,809 --> 00:02:07,079 well so there I'm gonna have a couple 26 00:02:11,089 --> 00:02:08,819 YouTube channels 27 00:02:12,830 --> 00:02:11,099 13 past midnight and then missing 28 00:02:16,190 --> 00:02:12,840 persons and Mysteries that's the big one 29 00:02:19,070 --> 00:02:16,200 just passed uh 238 000 subscribers over 30 00:02:20,630 --> 00:02:19,080 there so that's that's what I enjoy over 31 00:02:22,970 --> 00:02:20,640 there like being a voice for the missing 32 00:02:25,490 --> 00:02:22,980 voice for the people that have no voice 33 00:02:27,410 --> 00:02:25,500 uh the mystery side of that we get into 34 00:02:30,770 --> 00:02:27,420 some strange things and some paranormal 35 00:02:33,770 --> 00:02:30,780 but our Focus will always first and 36 00:02:35,869 --> 00:02:33,780 foremost be the missing if we can bring 37 00:02:38,809 --> 00:02:35,879 one person home or give one family 38 00:02:41,390 --> 00:02:38,819 closure than we've done what we're set 39 00:02:43,309 --> 00:02:41,400 out to do but uh I've been interested in 40 00:02:44,270 --> 00:02:43,319 the Paranormal all my life starting 41 00:02:46,490 --> 00:02:44,280 about 42 00:02:48,229 --> 00:02:46,500 age four so I started having strange 43 00:02:52,009 --> 00:02:48,239 experiences on my first full body 44 00:02:53,990 --> 00:02:52,019 Apparition at age six and just uh like 45 00:02:57,470 --> 00:02:54,000 like the name of your show I truly lived 46 00:03:00,050 --> 00:02:57,480 a paranormal life and uh love it write 47 00:03:02,509 --> 00:03:00,060 books and do the videos and voice over 48 00:03:04,610 --> 00:03:02,519 work and create content for some other 49 00:03:10,309 --> 00:03:04,620 channels and stuff I just I love what I 50 00:03:15,770 --> 00:03:12,470 we tend to gravitate towards this kind 51 00:03:18,350 --> 00:03:15,780 of life so yeah I'm not so much sure if 52 00:03:20,509 --> 00:03:18,360 I picked it or if it picked me because 53 00:03:22,670 --> 00:03:20,519 I've I've had that feeling before I was 54 00:03:24,470 --> 00:03:22,680 thinking a few years ago that every 55 00:03:27,050 --> 00:03:24,480 house I've ever lived in was haunted to 56 00:03:29,030 --> 00:03:27,060 some degree and then recently I've 57 00:03:30,830 --> 00:03:29,040 decided it's not the houses so much it's 58 00:03:33,649 --> 00:03:30,840 me that's haunted and the stuff just 59 00:03:36,410 --> 00:03:33,659 kind of I'm an attractor or seem to be 60 00:03:38,089 --> 00:03:36,420 I'm okay with that I I tend to agree 61 00:03:40,309 --> 00:03:38,099 with that I I have the same experience 62 00:03:42,710 --> 00:03:40,319 so I tend to agree with that so let's 63 00:03:45,229 --> 00:03:42,720 talk about missing persons tonight 64 00:03:47,089 --> 00:03:45,239 okay so what would be the biggest story 65 00:03:49,250 --> 00:03:47,099 that sticks out to you 66 00:03:50,449 --> 00:03:49,260 the one that's that stuck with me the 67 00:03:52,910 --> 00:03:50,459 longest is the Dennis Martin 68 00:03:56,330 --> 00:03:52,920 disappearance out of the Great Smoky 69 00:03:58,729 --> 00:03:56,340 Mountains in 1969 Father's Day him and 70 00:03:59,930 --> 00:03:58,739 his father brother and grandfather had 71 00:04:02,330 --> 00:03:59,940 gone up there 72 00:04:04,610 --> 00:04:02,340 uh to a place called Spence field which 73 00:04:06,710 --> 00:04:04,620 is up above Cades Cove and I grew up in 74 00:04:08,869 --> 00:04:06,720 the area we lived in Knoxville just an 75 00:04:10,550 --> 00:04:08,879 hour or so away from the Smokies I was 76 00:04:12,050 --> 00:04:10,560 about the same age as Dennis when he 77 00:04:14,869 --> 00:04:12,060 disappeared I think he was about a year 78 00:04:17,090 --> 00:04:14,879 older and that just it really stuck with 79 00:04:18,770 --> 00:04:17,100 me and I watched the news every day 80 00:04:20,569 --> 00:04:18,780 somewhere I think they're at my 81 00:04:23,090 --> 00:04:20,579 brother's house I've got two scrapbooks 82 00:04:24,770 --> 00:04:23,100 full of newspaper clippings about that 83 00:04:27,830 --> 00:04:24,780 case and he was never found I mean they 84 00:04:30,530 --> 00:04:27,840 didn't find any sign of him 85 00:04:31,790 --> 00:04:30,540 yeah what was oh go ahead go ahead I was 86 00:04:34,550 --> 00:04:31,800 just gonna say that was the first time 87 00:04:36,230 --> 00:04:34,560 you know in my child like mine that I 88 00:04:37,670 --> 00:04:36,240 just you know kids can go missing 89 00:04:41,749 --> 00:04:37,680 something can happen and they can never 90 00:04:43,610 --> 00:04:41,759 be seen again and said just the age that 91 00:04:45,230 --> 00:04:43,620 I was I thought well you know we don't 92 00:04:47,870 --> 00:04:45,240 live that far from the Smokies maybe 93 00:04:49,670 --> 00:04:47,880 wandered down here now we were close but 94 00:04:51,530 --> 00:04:49,680 by car 95 00:04:53,450 --> 00:04:51,540 um but I got out on the country roads 96 00:04:54,890 --> 00:04:53,460 that we lived on and looked for him on 97 00:04:56,390 --> 00:04:54,900 my little Schwinn Stingray you know 98 00:04:59,030 --> 00:04:56,400 thought he might be hiding in the bushes 99 00:05:02,629 --> 00:04:59,040 or something and so that case has always 100 00:05:04,490 --> 00:05:02,639 stuck with me uh he's been missing 101 00:05:08,270 --> 00:05:04,500 I can't do math if I have but 50 102 00:05:10,189 --> 00:05:08,280 something years now and just no no clue 103 00:05:13,189 --> 00:05:10,199 no answer that's one of the strangest 104 00:05:14,870 --> 00:05:13,199 missing person cases ever and I mean 105 00:05:16,790 --> 00:05:14,880 they're all strange to a degree they're 106 00:05:19,730 --> 00:05:16,800 all sad some of them do have a 107 00:05:21,890 --> 00:05:19,740 supernatural element seems like uh some 108 00:05:23,930 --> 00:05:21,900 of them it's just pure misadventure but 109 00:05:25,070 --> 00:05:23,940 people being ill-prepared there's a 110 00:05:26,990 --> 00:05:25,080 little bit of everything in there it's 111 00:05:29,810 --> 00:05:27,000 kind of a mixed bag 112 00:05:32,450 --> 00:05:29,820 so what was the circumstance around his 113 00:05:34,850 --> 00:05:32,460 disappearance if you can tell us well 114 00:05:36,529 --> 00:05:34,860 they they were had hiked up the Spence 115 00:05:38,150 --> 00:05:36,539 field and they met another family 116 00:05:41,629 --> 00:05:38,160 they're also named the Martins no 117 00:05:43,550 --> 00:05:41,639 relation and uh the that family had some 118 00:05:46,370 --> 00:05:43,560 children and the kids were all playing 119 00:05:48,110 --> 00:05:46,380 together and they were playing depending 120 00:05:49,850 --> 00:05:48,120 on which store you hear either hide and 121 00:05:52,189 --> 00:05:49,860 seek or they were going to sneak up on 122 00:05:55,550 --> 00:05:52,199 the adults and scare them Dennis's dad 123 00:05:58,370 --> 00:05:55,560 watched Dennis go like behind some Bryce 124 00:05:59,870 --> 00:05:58,380 pilot or some bushes there and then when 125 00:06:02,689 --> 00:05:59,880 the other kids came out 126 00:06:03,890 --> 00:06:02,699 like where's Dennis and like we don't 127 00:06:06,110 --> 00:06:03,900 know we haven't seen him since we 128 00:06:07,850 --> 00:06:06,120 started playing his dad walked right to 129 00:06:10,070 --> 00:06:07,860 the clump of brush where he saw him go 130 00:06:12,830 --> 00:06:10,080 missing went all the way around it went 131 00:06:14,749 --> 00:06:12,840 in it there was no dentist no sign of 132 00:06:17,629 --> 00:06:14,759 him and that's right there in the edge 133 00:06:19,730 --> 00:06:17,639 of the Appalachian Trail so he sent the 134 00:06:22,790 --> 00:06:19,740 grandfather his father down to the 135 00:06:25,070 --> 00:06:22,800 ranger station and um 136 00:06:28,189 --> 00:06:25,080 he uh this dad took off down the 137 00:06:30,050 --> 00:06:28,199 Appalachian Trail in a dead run no sign 138 00:06:32,809 --> 00:06:30,060 of him and it turned into at that time 139 00:06:35,330 --> 00:06:32,819 the biggest uh search and rescue effort 140 00:06:37,990 --> 00:06:35,340 the Smokies had ever seen uh inclement 141 00:06:41,090 --> 00:06:38,000 weather rolled in hampered the search 142 00:06:43,249 --> 00:06:41,100 and uh I think the only thing they might 143 00:06:44,870 --> 00:06:43,259 have found there was one footprint that 144 00:06:47,749 --> 00:06:44,880 they thought might have been Dennis's 145 00:06:50,930 --> 00:06:47,759 but they weren't even sure about that 146 00:06:52,969 --> 00:06:50,940 and just no signup now there's lots of 147 00:06:54,890 --> 00:06:52,979 theories there's stories about feral 148 00:06:56,990 --> 00:06:54,900 people that living in the mountains and 149 00:07:00,230 --> 00:06:57,000 they might have taken him or some people 150 00:07:01,790 --> 00:07:00,240 claim a Bigfoot got him uh others 151 00:07:03,850 --> 00:07:01,800 claimed it was like you know a human 152 00:07:08,270 --> 00:07:03,860 abduction or something like that but 153 00:07:10,909 --> 00:07:08,280 it's all speculation we just don't know 154 00:07:13,430 --> 00:07:10,919 and that seems to happen with like 155 00:07:17,210 --> 00:07:13,440 you had a video of cherry Mayhem on your 156 00:07:20,749 --> 00:07:17,220 uh on missing persons because I I'm very 157 00:07:23,450 --> 00:07:20,759 close to that area and how you said uh 158 00:07:25,070 --> 00:07:23,460 that affected your life Cherry mayhem's 159 00:07:27,770 --> 00:07:25,080 kind of affected mine because my mother 160 00:07:30,589 --> 00:07:27,780 told me about that yeah that's the baby 161 00:07:32,570 --> 00:07:30,599 at that time and she she was terrified 162 00:07:34,550 --> 00:07:32,580 that's another strange one she literally 163 00:07:36,830 --> 00:07:34,560 got off the school bus and disappeared 164 00:07:38,930 --> 00:07:36,840 in the two blocks or so to her house 165 00:07:41,990 --> 00:07:38,940 right and I think her dad was standing 166 00:07:45,110 --> 00:07:42,000 outside watching for there was a van 167 00:07:46,550 --> 00:07:45,120 that had a mural of somebody skiing on a 168 00:07:49,370 --> 00:07:46,560 mountain on both sides of it that was 169 00:07:51,350 --> 00:07:49,380 parked near where the bus let out I mean 170 00:07:53,749 --> 00:07:51,360 obviously people would remember a van 171 00:07:55,370 --> 00:07:53,759 like that nobody ever came forward and 172 00:07:57,350 --> 00:07:55,380 said they owned it or they knew who 173 00:08:00,350 --> 00:07:57,360 owned it there was a rumor that it was 174 00:08:01,730 --> 00:08:00,360 spray painted black afterwards there's a 175 00:08:04,490 --> 00:08:01,740 lot of different theories in that one 176 00:08:06,409 --> 00:08:04,500 either the shoes abducted and again I 177 00:08:08,749 --> 00:08:06,419 don't like the victim shame or victim 178 00:08:11,510 --> 00:08:08,759 family shame but there's even one theory 179 00:08:13,249 --> 00:08:11,520 that her parents sold her or you know 180 00:08:15,469 --> 00:08:13,259 did something with her and that they 181 00:08:17,210 --> 00:08:15,479 know what happened so and this 182 00:08:20,450 --> 00:08:17,220 unfortunate as is that does happen 183 00:08:22,070 --> 00:08:20,460 sometimes there are cases where in the 184 00:08:23,930 --> 00:08:22,080 end you know find out that the parents 185 00:08:25,790 --> 00:08:23,940 were either involved or knew what 186 00:08:28,369 --> 00:08:25,800 happened or were in some way complicit 187 00:08:30,950 --> 00:08:28,379 right and that from what I was told that 188 00:08:32,449 --> 00:08:30,960 van was seen everywhere around the 189 00:08:34,909 --> 00:08:32,459 surrounding areas and even into 190 00:08:36,709 --> 00:08:34,919 Pittsburgh and everything if somebody 191 00:08:38,389 --> 00:08:36,719 had to have known what happened to her 192 00:08:39,949 --> 00:08:38,399 but it was it was just a very strange 193 00:08:42,409 --> 00:08:39,959 case that I know affected my life 194 00:08:44,449 --> 00:08:42,419 because my mom had said you know I was I 195 00:08:46,730 --> 00:08:44,459 was a little bit over a year old and she 196 00:08:48,410 --> 00:08:46,740 she had seen it and she had freaked out 197 00:08:50,269 --> 00:08:48,420 there was something similar to it and 198 00:08:52,009 --> 00:08:50,279 she had called the police so when you 199 00:08:55,070 --> 00:08:52,019 did that story I was just like very 200 00:08:56,509 --> 00:08:55,080 shocked to see it yeah that was we we 201 00:08:57,829 --> 00:08:56,519 tried to find those older cases 202 00:08:59,329 --> 00:08:57,839 sometimes and bring them to light 203 00:09:02,030 --> 00:08:59,339 especially the unsolved ones because 204 00:09:04,250 --> 00:09:02,040 like you said somebody out there knows 205 00:09:07,310 --> 00:09:04,260 something somebody knows who that man 206 00:09:10,370 --> 00:09:07,320 belonged to or you know there's just 207 00:09:12,949 --> 00:09:10,380 again there's a cover-up or something 208 00:09:14,990 --> 00:09:12,959 just a lot of people oh I mean look at 209 00:09:17,269 --> 00:09:15,000 the Delphi case that that's you know 210 00:09:20,030 --> 00:09:17,279 those horrible murders that's a very 211 00:09:21,769 --> 00:09:20,040 very small community in Indiana speaking 212 00:09:23,870 --> 00:09:21,779 of Indiana I want to say hi to my friend 213 00:09:26,090 --> 00:09:23,880 katson parade who stayed up late tonight 214 00:09:28,430 --> 00:09:26,100 to watch me from Indiana hey Tina good 215 00:09:30,710 --> 00:09:28,440 to see you but that that whole Community 216 00:09:32,630 --> 00:09:30,720 as small as it is somebody had to know 217 00:09:35,269 --> 00:09:32,640 something and now you know they think 218 00:09:38,030 --> 00:09:35,279 they've arrested that rich Richard Allen 219 00:09:39,949 --> 00:09:38,040 and I don't know it looks strange that 220 00:09:42,470 --> 00:09:39,959 I've heard some rumors that maybe the 221 00:09:43,550 --> 00:09:42,480 wife was complicit on that yeah there's 222 00:09:45,889 --> 00:09:43,560 Sherry 223 00:09:47,870 --> 00:09:45,899 yeah he's a beautiful little girl she 224 00:09:50,150 --> 00:09:47,880 was and that's it's just such a sad case 225 00:09:53,269 --> 00:09:50,160 because I remember was it two years ago 226 00:09:55,070 --> 00:09:53,279 the local news did a new thing about it 227 00:09:56,570 --> 00:09:55,080 and her mother showed where they lived 228 00:09:59,210 --> 00:09:56,580 and you could just look down the 229 00:10:01,670 --> 00:09:59,220 driveway at where the bus stop was and 230 00:10:04,310 --> 00:10:01,680 how she disappeared from that you know 231 00:10:06,290 --> 00:10:04,320 that far of a distance is just and that 232 00:10:09,230 --> 00:10:06,300 that's the hardest cases for me are the 233 00:10:11,150 --> 00:10:09,240 ones involving children I'm I'm empathic 234 00:10:13,790 --> 00:10:11,160 to a degree I don't have 235 00:10:16,430 --> 00:10:13,800 uh any abilities or anything like that 236 00:10:18,949 --> 00:10:16,440 that I climb but my feelings tend to be 237 00:10:21,110 --> 00:10:18,959 Amplified and some of these kid cases 238 00:10:23,389 --> 00:10:21,120 literally I have to stop and compose 239 00:10:25,009 --> 00:10:23,399 myself when I'm making the video and 240 00:10:27,530 --> 00:10:25,019 just because it's just it's so sad 241 00:10:30,889 --> 00:10:27,540 they're heartbreaking I mean any missing 242 00:10:32,269 --> 00:10:30,899 person is sad no one missing person is 243 00:10:35,030 --> 00:10:32,279 more important than another but it's 244 00:10:37,730 --> 00:10:35,040 just it's really sad for the children 245 00:10:40,730 --> 00:10:37,740 what do you think paranormal aspect of 246 00:10:42,590 --> 00:10:40,740 some of these cases well some of the the 247 00:10:46,490 --> 00:10:42,600 really strange ones are the people that 248 00:10:48,710 --> 00:10:46,500 go missing and then are found alive and 249 00:10:50,930 --> 00:10:48,720 then some of the stories they tell and 250 00:10:52,910 --> 00:10:50,940 it happens to children as well as adults 251 00:10:55,310 --> 00:10:52,920 there was one little girl covered 252 00:10:57,590 --> 00:10:55,320 recently that went missing uh she was 253 00:10:59,269 --> 00:10:57,600 picking berries that's another odd thing 254 00:11:01,790 --> 00:10:59,279 a lot of times people go missing in or 255 00:11:03,230 --> 00:11:01,800 near Berry patches she's picking berries 256 00:11:05,569 --> 00:11:03,240 with her family and they literally just 257 00:11:08,090 --> 00:11:05,579 looked around and she was gone she was 258 00:11:11,030 --> 00:11:08,100 missing for two days and then uh 259 00:11:12,710 --> 00:11:11,040 searches finally found her and she was 260 00:11:15,530 --> 00:11:12,720 cool comic collected didn't look like 261 00:11:17,810 --> 00:11:15,540 she had been out in the woods for two 262 00:11:20,949 --> 00:11:17,820 days and nights and still had some 263 00:11:24,230 --> 00:11:20,959 berries in her hand but she claimed that 264 00:11:26,630 --> 00:11:24,240 wherever she was that the sun shined the 265 00:11:28,250 --> 00:11:26,640 whole time that it was never dark you 266 00:11:30,350 --> 00:11:28,260 know that's that's a really 267 00:11:32,090 --> 00:11:30,360 creepy part of it and then I've heard 268 00:11:35,210 --> 00:11:32,100 other stories like that where somebody 269 00:11:36,590 --> 00:11:35,220 would maybe be missing for days but it 270 00:11:38,810 --> 00:11:36,600 would seem like to them that only 271 00:11:41,090 --> 00:11:38,820 minutes had passed that they could not 272 00:11:42,650 --> 00:11:41,100 believe they've been gone for two or 273 00:11:44,690 --> 00:11:42,660 three days or whatever it just seemed 274 00:11:46,790 --> 00:11:44,700 like an hour or two and then there's the 275 00:11:49,250 --> 00:11:46,800 obverse there where there's people that 276 00:11:51,829 --> 00:11:49,260 are only missing for a few hours but in 277 00:11:54,230 --> 00:11:51,839 their memory they saw the sun rise and 278 00:11:55,850 --> 00:11:54,240 set several times so there's I don't 279 00:11:59,329 --> 00:11:55,860 know I've heard all kinds of theories 280 00:12:02,509 --> 00:11:59,339 put forth on that uh portals glitches in 281 00:12:05,030 --> 00:12:02,519 time uh something intended in The Matrix 282 00:12:06,590 --> 00:12:05,040 It glitch in The Matrix you know but 283 00:12:08,389 --> 00:12:06,600 that that's the thing about there's a 284 00:12:10,910 --> 00:12:08,399 lot of this there there are no answers 285 00:12:12,470 --> 00:12:10,920 and that's been my experience with the 286 00:12:13,670 --> 00:12:12,480 Paranormal too because when I first 287 00:12:16,009 --> 00:12:13,680 started out 288 00:12:18,590 --> 00:12:16,019 you know it was a quest for answers but 289 00:12:20,750 --> 00:12:18,600 the more I've looked into it it's become 290 00:12:22,550 --> 00:12:20,760 more of a 291 00:12:25,370 --> 00:12:22,560 looking for the next set of questions 292 00:12:26,870 --> 00:12:25,380 because there are no answers plus I 293 00:12:30,769 --> 00:12:26,880 think if we had answers it wouldn't be 294 00:12:33,590 --> 00:12:30,779 anywhere near as much fun no if we had a 295 00:12:35,810 --> 00:12:33,600 big foot or if we captured a UFO that 296 00:12:37,190 --> 00:12:35,820 would kind of just ruin all the mistakes 297 00:12:40,310 --> 00:12:37,200 for it for me 298 00:12:42,650 --> 00:12:40,320 no I agree I agree and 299 00:12:44,569 --> 00:12:42,660 you know with me I I keep looking for 300 00:12:46,250 --> 00:12:44,579 answers as to why I've experienced what 301 00:12:49,430 --> 00:12:46,260 I've experienced but I just keep getting 302 00:12:51,829 --> 00:12:49,440 more more questions the further and I go 303 00:12:54,230 --> 00:12:51,839 but yeah sure I asked Kathy who has a 304 00:12:56,090 --> 00:12:54,240 show called where'd the road go uh he 305 00:12:58,790 --> 00:12:56,100 analyzed it one time and said it's like 306 00:13:00,710 --> 00:12:58,800 trying to put a puzzle together and but 307 00:13:01,970 --> 00:13:00,720 you don't have the box to look at to see 308 00:13:04,250 --> 00:13:01,980 what the picture is even supposed to 309 00:13:06,410 --> 00:13:04,260 look like and then you realize that it's 310 00:13:08,449 --> 00:13:06,420 probably three or four puzzles mixed 311 00:13:10,190 --> 00:13:08,459 together and it's impossible to put 312 00:13:11,870 --> 00:13:10,200 together and that's that's kind of what 313 00:13:14,750 --> 00:13:11,880 we're dealing with I think I like the 314 00:13:16,250 --> 00:13:14,760 analogy I really yeah that's great and 315 00:13:18,590 --> 00:13:16,260 you bring up you know how some missing 316 00:13:19,850 --> 00:13:18,600 show are found and you know they've 317 00:13:21,170 --> 00:13:19,860 experienced different things that 318 00:13:22,490 --> 00:13:21,180 reminds me of the little boy who was 319 00:13:23,810 --> 00:13:22,500 found a few months ago the little boy 320 00:13:27,350 --> 00:13:23,820 from Montana 321 00:13:31,009 --> 00:13:27,360 and the picture of him yeah his name was 322 00:13:32,449 --> 00:13:31,019 I'm not just I can't remember Max Weber 323 00:13:34,730 --> 00:13:32,459 or something like that something like 324 00:13:37,190 --> 00:13:34,740 that but we had we had some of the 325 00:13:39,530 --> 00:13:37,200 oddest comments on that people were 326 00:13:42,050 --> 00:13:39,540 saying whatever that is put it back in 327 00:13:46,870 --> 00:13:42,060 the woods that's not the same kid that's 328 00:13:49,490 --> 00:13:46,880 a changeling but uh he had that 329 00:13:51,050 --> 00:13:49,500 when I was a kid I saw a lot of Vietnam 330 00:13:52,910 --> 00:13:51,060 War veterans come home and they would 331 00:13:54,949 --> 00:13:52,920 have that shell-shocked look you know 332 00:13:57,110 --> 00:13:54,959 that thousand yard stare and that's the 333 00:14:00,110 --> 00:13:57,120 way it was his eyes were big and he was 334 00:14:02,210 --> 00:14:00,120 just look I hate saying some stuff yeah 335 00:14:04,430 --> 00:14:02,220 and that's another strange when he was 336 00:14:06,110 --> 00:14:04,440 wearing those little footy pajamas and 337 00:14:08,090 --> 00:14:06,120 they were just barely dirty on the 338 00:14:10,069 --> 00:14:08,100 bottoms and this was supposedly a kid 339 00:14:11,810 --> 00:14:10,079 that had been out in the woods for two 340 00:14:14,210 --> 00:14:11,820 or three days and had walked several 341 00:14:16,190 --> 00:14:14,220 miles and was hiding in somebody's 342 00:14:17,810 --> 00:14:16,200 garden shed and that was how they fed 343 00:14:20,389 --> 00:14:17,820 them they heard him in this garden shed 344 00:14:23,150 --> 00:14:20,399 talking and laughing to himself 345 00:14:25,129 --> 00:14:23,160 so that's a weird one now I love the 346 00:14:27,050 --> 00:14:25,139 ones like that I mean it did have a 347 00:14:29,269 --> 00:14:27,060 happy ending but where was he what 348 00:14:31,370 --> 00:14:29,279 happened to him there's a lot of cases 349 00:14:33,050 --> 00:14:31,380 like that where children will be found 350 00:14:34,129 --> 00:14:33,060 miles from where they started and 351 00:14:37,670 --> 00:14:34,139 toddlers 352 00:14:39,170 --> 00:14:37,680 and uh but they won't have any scratches 353 00:14:42,230 --> 00:14:39,180 or dirt on them or anything it's like 354 00:14:44,629 --> 00:14:42,240 they were just teleported or taken and 355 00:14:47,689 --> 00:14:44,639 carried if it was uh some sort of a 356 00:14:48,889 --> 00:14:47,699 human activity involved and it just it 357 00:14:50,870 --> 00:14:48,899 makes you wonder because they're just 358 00:14:53,329 --> 00:14:50,880 small enough that they can't tell you 359 00:14:55,430 --> 00:14:53,339 like a full story of what happened there 360 00:14:57,769 --> 00:14:55,440 he is there he is yeah 361 00:14:59,569 --> 00:14:57,779 and it doesn't it doesn't look like the 362 00:15:01,610 --> 00:14:59,579 same little boy it doesn't look like 363 00:15:03,530 --> 00:15:01,620 he's he's like I said he's been through 364 00:15:06,050 --> 00:15:03,540 something it looks like he's got PTSD 365 00:15:07,670 --> 00:15:06,060 and look at the feet on those little 366 00:15:10,189 --> 00:15:07,680 pajamas that he was in there's no way 367 00:15:11,389 --> 00:15:10,199 that kid walked for miles in the woods 368 00:15:13,610 --> 00:15:11,399 and uh 369 00:15:15,050 --> 00:15:13,620 I think it was even raining in the area 370 00:15:17,569 --> 00:15:15,060 where he went missing or had been 371 00:15:19,610 --> 00:15:17,579 raining yeah and I mean kids are 372 00:15:21,290 --> 00:15:19,620 unsteady that small on their feet I mean 373 00:15:23,689 --> 00:15:21,300 he should have he should have fallen 374 00:15:25,430 --> 00:15:23,699 somewhere if he was in the woods and I 375 00:15:28,610 --> 00:15:25,440 mean that his pajamas looked perfect 376 00:15:30,350 --> 00:15:28,620 almost but yeah like I said we got a lot 377 00:15:32,930 --> 00:15:30,360 of strange comments that's not the same 378 00:15:34,610 --> 00:15:32,940 kid uh whatever that is put it back in 379 00:15:37,670 --> 00:15:34,620 the woods and go find the real kid I 380 00:15:39,590 --> 00:15:37,680 mean there was some of humorous ones 381 00:15:41,569 --> 00:15:39,600 that's not really a laughing matter but 382 00:15:44,329 --> 00:15:41,579 you know I can see their point it does 383 00:15:46,129 --> 00:15:44,339 not look like the same kid no but you're 384 00:15:48,170 --> 00:15:46,139 I agree with you he looks very very 385 00:15:50,150 --> 00:15:48,180 stunned and everything have have there 386 00:15:52,910 --> 00:15:50,160 ever been any cases of adults coming 387 00:15:56,509 --> 00:15:52,920 back and being able to say you know hey 388 00:15:58,310 --> 00:15:56,519 this is what happened this is what I saw 389 00:16:01,250 --> 00:15:58,320 or they've just clammed up and not 390 00:16:03,170 --> 00:16:01,260 wanted to say anything uh there are 391 00:16:05,689 --> 00:16:03,180 people like that that do come back and 392 00:16:07,970 --> 00:16:05,699 they don't want to discuss whatever they 393 00:16:10,310 --> 00:16:07,980 experience what they saw and I said the 394 00:16:13,069 --> 00:16:10,320 ones that do it will be some sort of 395 00:16:15,050 --> 00:16:13,079 almost fanciful tale like they were in a 396 00:16:15,889 --> 00:16:15,060 place where the Sun never sat or where 397 00:16:19,370 --> 00:16:15,899 they were 398 00:16:22,129 --> 00:16:19,380 I saw it sent and Rise several times 399 00:16:24,410 --> 00:16:22,139 but they had no memory and sometimes 400 00:16:27,350 --> 00:16:24,420 it'll be just like I was walking 401 00:16:29,150 --> 00:16:27,360 on the trail and suddenly I realized I 402 00:16:31,189 --> 00:16:29,160 wasn't on the trail anymore I didn't 403 00:16:32,449 --> 00:16:31,199 know where I was I didn't know how to 404 00:16:34,610 --> 00:16:32,459 get back 405 00:16:37,129 --> 00:16:34,620 and there's been cases where people have 406 00:16:39,170 --> 00:16:37,139 even heard and seen searches in the 407 00:16:40,610 --> 00:16:39,180 distance like within shouting business 408 00:16:42,889 --> 00:16:40,620 they're yelling they're waving their 409 00:16:46,189 --> 00:16:42,899 arms but it's like they're in some kind 410 00:16:48,889 --> 00:16:46,199 of other place where they can't be seen 411 00:16:51,769 --> 00:16:48,899 or heard or vice versa 412 00:16:53,449 --> 00:16:51,779 do you do you think so in your personal 413 00:16:54,769 --> 00:16:53,459 opinion what do you think 414 00:16:56,329 --> 00:16:54,779 you think it could be 415 00:16:57,550 --> 00:16:56,339 berries a portal 416 00:17:01,490 --> 00:16:57,560 portal yes 417 00:17:04,189 --> 00:17:01,500 I think it could be any or else above it 418 00:17:05,390 --> 00:17:04,199 just it depends on the case uh like I 419 00:17:07,730 --> 00:17:05,400 said sometimes it's just pure 420 00:17:09,770 --> 00:17:07,740 misadventure people being unprepared 421 00:17:12,409 --> 00:17:09,780 there are people that want to go missing 422 00:17:15,289 --> 00:17:12,419 you have people that uh just wander off 423 00:17:18,230 --> 00:17:15,299 and start a new life and that happens 424 00:17:20,870 --> 00:17:18,240 sometimes and there's no logins that you 425 00:17:23,210 --> 00:17:20,880 can go missing if you want to but I I 426 00:17:25,669 --> 00:17:23,220 think it's sad when they do that because 427 00:17:27,549 --> 00:17:25,679 uh the money that's spent for search and 428 00:17:30,950 --> 00:17:27,559 rescue if somebody wants to disappear 429 00:17:33,590 --> 00:17:30,960 but uh some cases it looks like it could 430 00:17:36,650 --> 00:17:33,600 be uh some sort of entity or Cryptid 431 00:17:38,570 --> 00:17:36,660 like Bigfoot some of it is uh I gave a 432 00:17:41,870 --> 00:17:38,580 talk about this in San Francisco back in 433 00:17:45,289 --> 00:17:41,880 March a lot of the uh disappearances are 434 00:17:47,450 --> 00:17:45,299 similar to alien abductee experiences is 435 00:17:50,330 --> 00:17:47,460 what they saw and what they remember I 436 00:17:52,490 --> 00:17:50,340 drew a nice parallel between that I I 437 00:17:54,890 --> 00:17:52,500 thought uh you know I said is it screen 438 00:17:57,289 --> 00:17:54,900 memories is it something that's been put 439 00:17:59,390 --> 00:17:57,299 there like quickly streamer remembers 440 00:18:02,570 --> 00:17:59,400 owls but then under hypnosis it was gray 441 00:18:04,010 --> 00:18:02,580 aliens so stuff that people see and 442 00:18:06,110 --> 00:18:04,020 experience in the woods is that really 443 00:18:08,029 --> 00:18:06,120 what they saw or experienced or was it 444 00:18:08,870 --> 00:18:08,039 something else 445 00:18:11,150 --> 00:18:08,880 um 446 00:18:13,130 --> 00:18:11,160 there there are animals there are no 447 00:18:14,690 --> 00:18:13,140 predators in the woods when you're out 448 00:18:17,930 --> 00:18:14,700 in the woods you're not the top of the 449 00:18:19,549 --> 00:18:17,940 food chain anymore but the bear attacks 450 00:18:22,789 --> 00:18:19,559 big cat attacks and things like that 451 00:18:24,409 --> 00:18:22,799 they're few and far between like in the 452 00:18:25,850 --> 00:18:24,419 the Great Smoky Mountains which is the 453 00:18:28,070 --> 00:18:25,860 most visited national park in the 454 00:18:30,890 --> 00:18:28,080 country sees anywhere from 12 to 15 455 00:18:33,470 --> 00:18:30,900 million visitors a year there's been I 456 00:18:35,570 --> 00:18:33,480 believe it's five fatal bear attacks 457 00:18:38,930 --> 00:18:35,580 since the park was founded back in the 458 00:18:41,330 --> 00:18:38,940 30s uh actually the the thing that's 459 00:18:42,890 --> 00:18:41,340 killed most people in the Smokies is 460 00:18:45,950 --> 00:18:42,900 flying over it in a small plane there's 461 00:18:47,570 --> 00:18:45,960 been 50 something plane crashes so don't 462 00:18:51,110 --> 00:18:47,580 mind the bears but stay out of those 463 00:18:53,450 --> 00:18:51,120 small airplanes yeah really well 464 00:18:56,090 --> 00:18:53,460 together just it could be anything it's 465 00:18:57,650 --> 00:18:56,100 part of the above all the above I I said 466 00:18:58,630 --> 00:18:57,660 some of them do have a supernatural 467 00:19:01,010 --> 00:18:58,640 element 468 00:19:03,110 --> 00:19:01,020 but what I was getting to with the the 469 00:19:05,630 --> 00:19:03,120 animal attacks like that there would be 470 00:19:07,789 --> 00:19:05,640 some evidence I've seen forensic 471 00:19:11,210 --> 00:19:07,799 photographs of people that were killed 472 00:19:13,850 --> 00:19:11,220 by bear or of our moose or by a big cat 473 00:19:15,830 --> 00:19:13,860 there's blood there's torn clothing you 474 00:19:17,570 --> 00:19:15,840 know a bear is not going to eat your 475 00:19:19,370 --> 00:19:17,580 belt buckle or eat your hiking boots 476 00:19:22,370 --> 00:19:19,380 they'll they'll eat all they can and 477 00:19:24,590 --> 00:19:22,380 some of those animals will cash their 478 00:19:25,669 --> 00:19:24,600 kills to come back later but I mean 479 00:19:27,650 --> 00:19:25,679 there's going to be a disturbance 480 00:19:29,930 --> 00:19:27,660 there's going to be blood or some sort 481 00:19:32,210 --> 00:19:29,940 of forensic evidence it would be very 482 00:19:34,010 --> 00:19:32,220 rare for a big cat to just grab somebody 483 00:19:37,789 --> 00:19:34,020 and then take off with it with their 484 00:19:39,890 --> 00:19:37,799 being no evidence left whatsoever right 485 00:19:41,870 --> 00:19:39,900 but a lot of people try to explain it 486 00:19:43,310 --> 00:19:41,880 away like that and somebody was 487 00:19:44,450 --> 00:19:43,320 mentioned in the chat just a few minutes 488 00:19:47,029 --> 00:19:44,460 ago there was a little boy that went 489 00:19:50,049 --> 00:19:47,039 missing and claimed that a bear found 490 00:19:52,970 --> 00:19:50,059 him carried him back to its cave 491 00:19:54,289 --> 00:19:52,980 cuddled with him kept him warm and fed 492 00:19:56,870 --> 00:19:54,299 in berries 493 00:19:57,890 --> 00:19:56,880 well you and I know that bears don't do 494 00:20:00,770 --> 00:19:57,900 that 495 00:20:02,630 --> 00:20:00,780 I I would like for somebody to show the 496 00:20:04,430 --> 00:20:02,640 little boy a picture of like you've got 497 00:20:05,990 --> 00:20:04,440 on the screen there and say did the bear 498 00:20:08,210 --> 00:20:06,000 look like this 499 00:20:10,430 --> 00:20:08,220 but again usually when that happens it's 500 00:20:13,909 --> 00:20:10,440 children's that are so small they can't 501 00:20:15,230 --> 00:20:13,919 fully articulate what happened and then 502 00:20:18,650 --> 00:20:15,240 when they get older they may not even 503 00:20:20,570 --> 00:20:18,660 remember it fully yeah and I mean that 504 00:20:22,549 --> 00:20:20,580 brings me to a good point too and brings 505 00:20:24,169 --> 00:20:22,559 you to the point like somebody would 506 00:20:25,909 --> 00:20:24,179 show this to a kid and the kids will go 507 00:20:27,529 --> 00:20:25,919 yeah but they would also show them say 508 00:20:28,730 --> 00:20:27,539 your picture my picture and the kids 509 00:20:31,669 --> 00:20:28,740 would go yeah 510 00:20:33,710 --> 00:20:31,679 I mean and depending how small they are 511 00:20:35,990 --> 00:20:33,720 because I I have a toddler so I 512 00:20:37,970 --> 00:20:36,000 understand you know yeah and if you've 513 00:20:40,430 --> 00:20:37,980 never seen or had no concept of a 514 00:20:43,970 --> 00:20:40,440 Bigfoot it might look like a bear to it 515 00:20:45,409 --> 00:20:43,980 yeah Donnie Cho there's asking yeah come 516 00:20:47,750 --> 00:20:45,419 across the stories accounts of people 517 00:20:50,630 --> 00:20:47,760 possibly being killed by Bigfoot or 518 00:20:52,850 --> 00:20:50,640 Dogman yes I've heard those often 519 00:20:55,789 --> 00:20:52,860 there's uh one video we're working on 520 00:20:58,070 --> 00:20:55,799 now about the Bennington triangle in uh 521 00:21:00,289 --> 00:20:58,080 Vermont a lot of strangers up there 522 00:21:03,230 --> 00:21:00,299 there's been Bigfoot sightings that go 523 00:21:06,950 --> 00:21:03,240 back to like the stagecoach days and the 524 00:21:08,330 --> 00:21:06,960 one story uh the stagecoach was stuck in 525 00:21:10,789 --> 00:21:08,340 the mud the driver is trying to get it 526 00:21:12,950 --> 00:21:10,799 unstuck this big hairy creature comes 527 00:21:15,350 --> 00:21:12,960 out of the woods looks in the coaches to 528 00:21:16,610 --> 00:21:15,360 people screams turns it over runs back 529 00:21:19,250 --> 00:21:16,620 into the woods I guess he didn't like 530 00:21:22,070 --> 00:21:19,260 what he saw but but in that same area 531 00:21:23,930 --> 00:21:22,080 they found a man a hunter a seasoned 532 00:21:25,730 --> 00:21:23,940 hunter that looked like he'd been 533 00:21:28,430 --> 00:21:25,740 crushed to death but he was just out in 534 00:21:30,529 --> 00:21:28,440 the woods and there's speculation that 535 00:21:33,409 --> 00:21:30,539 that was some kind of whatever the 536 00:21:36,110 --> 00:21:33,419 scripted or creature is that happens 537 00:21:37,909 --> 00:21:36,120 sometimes with missing person cases they 538 00:21:40,610 --> 00:21:37,919 will find somebody in a Boulder Field 539 00:21:42,409 --> 00:21:40,620 that looks like they've fallen from a 540 00:21:44,930 --> 00:21:42,419 considerable height but there's no 541 00:21:47,029 --> 00:21:44,940 height for them to have fallen from well 542 00:21:50,149 --> 00:21:47,039 some of the different tribes I think 543 00:21:51,529 --> 00:21:50,159 it's the Algonquin on in New England and 544 00:21:53,870 --> 00:21:51,539 I can't remember which tribe it is the 545 00:21:58,010 --> 00:21:53,880 Pacific Northwest but they have a legend 546 00:22:00,289 --> 00:21:58,020 of a creature that appears as a rock and 547 00:22:02,570 --> 00:22:00,299 it has the ability to open up and 548 00:22:04,789 --> 00:22:02,580 swallow people and then when it closes 549 00:22:08,390 --> 00:22:04,799 back it literally crushes him and then 550 00:22:10,370 --> 00:22:08,400 spits them back out so these people that 551 00:22:12,950 --> 00:22:10,380 they find in Boulder Fields I think if 552 00:22:15,110 --> 00:22:12,960 you've been crushed inside of a rock a 553 00:22:17,330 --> 00:22:15,120 rock creature you might look like you'd 554 00:22:19,130 --> 00:22:17,340 fallen from a great height that's just 555 00:22:21,890 --> 00:22:19,140 there's some stuff that there is no 556 00:22:24,230 --> 00:22:21,900 rational or scientific explanation and 557 00:22:26,270 --> 00:22:24,240 in a lot of these cases Occam's razor 558 00:22:28,130 --> 00:22:26,280 does work you know the the simplest 559 00:22:29,930 --> 00:22:28,140 explanation is usually the most accurate 560 00:22:32,270 --> 00:22:29,940 but some of these they're just there is 561 00:22:34,669 --> 00:22:32,280 no simple explanation 562 00:22:36,289 --> 00:22:34,679 no I totally agree with that we also 563 00:22:37,190 --> 00:22:36,299 have another question from Vincent 564 00:22:40,610 --> 00:22:37,200 Richardson 565 00:22:45,169 --> 00:22:42,529 you thinkable is due to occult violence 566 00:22:46,490 --> 00:22:45,179 and rituals now there is some of that I 567 00:22:48,710 --> 00:22:46,500 went up into 568 00:22:51,110 --> 00:22:48,720 um Olympic National Park Olympic 569 00:22:52,909 --> 00:22:51,120 National Forest recently it's been a few 570 00:22:54,649 --> 00:22:52,919 months ago looking into some some 571 00:22:58,490 --> 00:22:54,659 missing and disappearances up there Ted 572 00:23:01,370 --> 00:22:58,500 Gunderson ex-fbi agent uh he has a whole 573 00:23:03,289 --> 00:23:01,380 theory about what's gone on there in the 574 00:23:06,169 --> 00:23:03,299 Olympic National Park in National Forest 575 00:23:08,810 --> 00:23:06,179 he claims that he knows of a place where 576 00:23:11,930 --> 00:23:08,820 there are dozens of bodies buried from 577 00:23:14,390 --> 00:23:11,940 people that were used in occult rituals 578 00:23:15,950 --> 00:23:14,400 blood sacrifice type stuff so I'm sure 579 00:23:16,909 --> 00:23:15,960 there's there's some of that that those 580 00:23:19,909 --> 00:23:16,919 go on 581 00:23:22,370 --> 00:23:19,919 uh I've in some of my wandering I've 582 00:23:26,390 --> 00:23:22,380 came across what I believe to be ritual 583 00:23:28,130 --> 00:23:26,400 sites but there wasn't any human uh 584 00:23:29,570 --> 00:23:28,140 victim or anything it was in there but 585 00:23:30,789 --> 00:23:29,580 I've seen where animals have been 586 00:23:33,230 --> 00:23:30,799 sacrificed 587 00:23:34,789 --> 00:23:33,240 and that that's frightening when you 588 00:23:38,029 --> 00:23:34,799 come across a tableau like that and 589 00:23:39,409 --> 00:23:38,039 realize you know this is people that do 590 00:23:40,909 --> 00:23:39,419 things like that they're they're hiding 591 00:23:43,730 --> 00:23:40,919 in in the woods and doing it for a 592 00:23:46,010 --> 00:23:43,740 reason and I've got a story in my first 593 00:23:48,770 --> 00:23:46,020 book strange things in the woods about 594 00:23:50,630 --> 00:23:48,780 somebody that Came Upon a ritual site 595 00:23:53,090 --> 00:23:50,640 and they'd driven their car as far as 596 00:23:55,669 --> 00:23:53,100 they could and then walked in and they 597 00:23:58,789 --> 00:23:55,679 found like uh arrows and things made out 598 00:24:01,010 --> 00:23:58,799 of logs like Trail markers and they came 599 00:24:03,649 --> 00:24:01,020 out in this clearing and there was a a 600 00:24:06,230 --> 00:24:03,659 big circle there with logs that looked 601 00:24:09,169 --> 00:24:06,240 like maybe altars it was arranged in the 602 00:24:11,149 --> 00:24:09,179 the shape of a pentagram or Pentacle 603 00:24:13,549 --> 00:24:11,159 depending on which way it pointed but 604 00:24:15,830 --> 00:24:13,559 there was evidence there that uh a goose 605 00:24:19,250 --> 00:24:15,840 or some type of Big Bird had been 606 00:24:22,669 --> 00:24:19,260 sacrificed the guy gets kind of spooked 607 00:24:24,529 --> 00:24:22,679 and heads back to his car and he gets to 608 00:24:26,990 --> 00:24:24,539 his car where he parked and somebody had 609 00:24:30,470 --> 00:24:27,000 written beware on the windshield in mud 610 00:24:32,149 --> 00:24:30,480 so again people that do things in secret 611 00:24:35,390 --> 00:24:32,159 there there's a reason that it's in 612 00:24:37,909 --> 00:24:35,400 secret yeah no I I agree and to follow 613 00:24:40,730 --> 00:24:37,919 that trail I mean he was pretty brave I 614 00:24:42,950 --> 00:24:40,740 mean I I wouldn't have well he wanted to 615 00:24:45,649 --> 00:24:42,960 see where it went and didn't really get 616 00:24:47,450 --> 00:24:45,659 an idea of what it was until he got to 617 00:24:49,669 --> 00:24:47,460 this clearing and there's a log 618 00:24:51,470 --> 00:24:49,679 pentagram an upside down crosses and 619 00:24:53,630 --> 00:24:51,480 things and then it's like okay maybe 620 00:24:57,669 --> 00:24:53,640 that wasn't such a good idea maybe I 621 00:25:00,110 --> 00:24:57,679 should go home how many of these cases 622 00:25:01,909 --> 00:25:00,120 do you think maybe involved the 623 00:25:03,710 --> 00:25:01,919 staircases in the woods do you think 624 00:25:05,330 --> 00:25:03,720 that has anything to do or do you just 625 00:25:08,750 --> 00:25:05,340 think it's you know like an urban legend 626 00:25:10,930 --> 00:25:08,760 I I I'm kind of in the middle on that 627 00:25:12,770 --> 00:25:10,940 one uh it's supposedly like a 628 00:25:14,750 --> 00:25:12,780 creepypasta or something that's just 629 00:25:16,610 --> 00:25:14,760 been made up but then I've talked to 630 00:25:18,710 --> 00:25:16,620 people that swear they came across the 631 00:25:20,330 --> 00:25:18,720 staircases in the woods now I've seen 632 00:25:22,850 --> 00:25:20,340 old home sites and things like that 633 00:25:24,529 --> 00:25:22,860 where there might be you know some steps 634 00:25:26,810 --> 00:25:24,539 or Foundation or something left but 635 00:25:29,510 --> 00:25:26,820 they're talking about actual staircases 636 00:25:31,970 --> 00:25:29,520 but my thinking on that that if it is 637 00:25:34,190 --> 00:25:31,980 something Supernatural or paranormal if 638 00:25:36,830 --> 00:25:34,200 you had some kind of craft that you had 639 00:25:38,390 --> 00:25:36,840 to land in the woods regularly in a 640 00:25:40,730 --> 00:25:38,400 certain place or you say you had a 641 00:25:43,090 --> 00:25:40,740 portal that could open up that's you'd 642 00:25:45,710 --> 00:25:43,100 want a set of stairs there 643 00:25:47,690 --> 00:25:45,720 I'm old enough to remember the old jet 644 00:25:50,149 --> 00:25:47,700 planes when you landed and they would 645 00:25:51,409 --> 00:25:50,159 roll the stairway out onto the tarmac 646 00:25:53,390 --> 00:25:51,419 and you would come off the plane and 647 00:25:56,090 --> 00:25:53,400 down the stairs same concept maybe 648 00:25:58,190 --> 00:25:56,100 something lands or something opens up 649 00:26:00,169 --> 00:25:58,200 and oh here's your stairs there you go 650 00:26:03,529 --> 00:26:00,179 watch your step thank you for 651 00:26:08,930 --> 00:26:06,169 actually a good one I actually 652 00:26:10,669 --> 00:26:08,940 but I I don't know who would be like I 653 00:26:13,549 --> 00:26:10,679 don't want to say dumb enough but brave 654 00:26:15,289 --> 00:26:13,559 enough maybe to go up the stairs I've 655 00:26:18,350 --> 00:26:15,299 been asked that question if I ever came 656 00:26:20,390 --> 00:26:18,360 across a set of stairs would I go up or 657 00:26:22,610 --> 00:26:20,400 if I've ever saw what looked like a 658 00:26:24,769 --> 00:26:22,620 portal would I stepped through it uh if 659 00:26:26,450 --> 00:26:24,779 I had my dog with me I would I've got a 660 00:26:29,330 --> 00:26:26,460 cat now too so I'd have to have both of 661 00:26:32,630 --> 00:26:29,340 them got a cat for my birthday but uh 662 00:26:34,909 --> 00:26:32,640 yeah but Sandy my channel manager gave 663 00:26:37,310 --> 00:26:34,919 me a black cat named Ben's always wanted 664 00:26:39,470 --> 00:26:37,320 a cat and always wanted the black one my 665 00:26:41,210 --> 00:26:39,480 mom would let me have cats and she was 666 00:26:43,610 --> 00:26:41,220 so superstitious I could have never had 667 00:26:45,890 --> 00:26:43,620 a black one so but anyway yeah if I had 668 00:26:48,470 --> 00:26:45,900 my animals with me I would like to step 669 00:26:50,690 --> 00:26:48,480 through but a part of me with the kiddos 670 00:26:53,149 --> 00:26:50,700 is it going to be like the old old Land 671 00:26:55,370 --> 00:26:53,159 of the Lost TV show from the 70s where 672 00:26:58,909 --> 00:26:55,380 I'd be fighting dinosaurs and sleest 673 00:27:01,190 --> 00:26:58,919 acts and you know that sort of thing but 674 00:27:02,630 --> 00:27:01,200 I just oh go ahead I don't know you know 675 00:27:04,549 --> 00:27:02,640 just because what if she couldn't come 676 00:27:06,710 --> 00:27:04,559 back but then again maybe you wouldn't 677 00:27:09,110 --> 00:27:06,720 want to what if it was a wonderful ice 678 00:27:10,669 --> 00:27:09,120 and and you liked it maybe that's why 679 00:27:12,710 --> 00:27:10,679 sometimes people go missing and don't 680 00:27:15,590 --> 00:27:12,720 come back they don't want to come back 681 00:27:18,230 --> 00:27:15,600 yeah no I agree it's hard to think about 682 00:27:19,789 --> 00:27:18,240 it right and I I have to say black cats 683 00:27:21,890 --> 00:27:19,799 are the best I have two of them they're 684 00:27:25,250 --> 00:27:21,900 the best animals they they're just so 685 00:27:27,110 --> 00:27:25,260 loving yeah Thomas Carroll says that uh 686 00:27:29,330 --> 00:27:27,120 cats on Parade says hi to business 687 00:27:31,970 --> 00:27:29,340 that's my new cat now I know she's got 688 00:27:34,250 --> 00:27:31,980 four black cats uh Sandy my channel 689 00:27:37,130 --> 00:27:34,260 manager here she's got uh seven cats 690 00:27:38,990 --> 00:27:37,140 five of them were black but Benton's 691 00:27:41,570 --> 00:27:39,000 just immediately decided I was her 692 00:27:44,570 --> 00:27:41,580 favorite human and attached herself to 693 00:27:47,810 --> 00:27:44,580 me as soon as I got here so that's how 694 00:27:50,210 --> 00:27:47,820 she ended up because mine or I'm hers or 695 00:27:51,830 --> 00:27:50,220 whatever but uh I think cats are 696 00:27:54,169 --> 00:27:51,840 intuitive I've seen these cats this 697 00:27:55,730 --> 00:27:54,179 house has some activity in it and I've 698 00:27:57,230 --> 00:27:55,740 seen the cats like staring at something 699 00:27:59,390 --> 00:27:57,240 down at the end of the hall that nobody 700 00:28:02,390 --> 00:27:59,400 else can see and then after a little 701 00:28:04,610 --> 00:28:02,400 research we did find out that uh back in 702 00:28:07,250 --> 00:28:04,620 86 a lady passed away in that back 703 00:28:09,830 --> 00:28:07,260 bathroom uh she had a stage four breast 704 00:28:13,250 --> 00:28:09,840 cancer and didn't want to go out like 705 00:28:16,130 --> 00:28:13,260 that so she uh overdosed and uh died in 706 00:28:18,890 --> 00:28:16,140 the bathroom back there and uh I've seen 707 00:28:20,570 --> 00:28:18,900 what looked like the Hem of a house coat 708 00:28:22,070 --> 00:28:20,580 or something go around the corner into 709 00:28:26,269 --> 00:28:22,080 that room when there was nobody back 710 00:28:28,850 --> 00:28:26,279 there and had some uh audio some clear 711 00:28:31,789 --> 00:28:28,860 audience experiences here too 712 00:28:34,789 --> 00:28:31,799 oh my goodness so your house is really 713 00:28:36,830 --> 00:28:34,799 really a good house then yeah there's at 714 00:28:38,630 --> 00:28:36,840 least three Spirits here but this isn't 715 00:28:41,450 --> 00:28:38,640 even the most active house I lived in I 716 00:28:42,830 --> 00:28:41,460 lived in one in Las Vegas that was built 717 00:28:46,010 --> 00:28:42,840 back in the 30s 718 00:28:47,750 --> 00:28:46,020 in an area where at that time there was 719 00:28:49,730 --> 00:28:47,760 no Las Vegas strip until the 40s 720 00:28:51,890 --> 00:28:49,740 everything was down on Fremont Street 721 00:28:54,169 --> 00:28:51,900 and where this house was would have been 722 00:28:56,990 --> 00:28:54,179 in the middle of the desert and it had 723 00:29:00,010 --> 00:28:57,000 been a mob safe house uh that had a 724 00:29:02,810 --> 00:29:00,020 hidden room behind a bookcase downstairs 725 00:29:04,430 --> 00:29:02,820 I was out checking my mail one day and I 726 00:29:06,230 --> 00:29:04,440 felt somebody looking at me and I turned 727 00:29:07,850 --> 00:29:06,240 around there's a elderly gentleman 728 00:29:10,370 --> 00:29:07,860 standing there and I'm like can I help 729 00:29:12,350 --> 00:29:10,380 you and he said forgive me for staring 730 00:29:14,870 --> 00:29:12,360 but I just wondered what kind of person 731 00:29:17,570 --> 00:29:14,880 could live in that house and then he 732 00:29:19,850 --> 00:29:17,580 he'd lived there since the 50s I think 733 00:29:23,269 --> 00:29:19,860 and he knew all these stories there was 734 00:29:25,190 --> 00:29:23,279 uh so the Bob safe house I think that 735 00:29:27,350 --> 00:29:25,200 basement room behind the bookcase it was 736 00:29:29,029 --> 00:29:27,360 just a bare room with a drain in the 737 00:29:30,830 --> 00:29:29,039 floor I think there was people that went 738 00:29:33,430 --> 00:29:30,840 in there that didn't come back out in 739 00:29:38,389 --> 00:29:36,409 and uh he also said that during the 70s 740 00:29:40,549 --> 00:29:38,399 there was some kind of religious cult 741 00:29:42,889 --> 00:29:40,559 that lived there and held ceremonies and 742 00:29:45,409 --> 00:29:42,899 uh my roommate actually heard people 743 00:29:46,549 --> 00:29:45,419 talking and chanting once coming from 744 00:29:49,250 --> 00:29:46,559 the downstairs where there was nobody 745 00:29:50,570 --> 00:29:49,260 there she thought it was me uh called me 746 00:29:53,090 --> 00:29:50,580 on my phone and said were you just 747 00:29:54,590 --> 00:29:53,100 downstairs I'm like I was doing a photo 748 00:29:56,870 --> 00:29:54,600 shoot I'm like no I'm out in Red Rock 749 00:29:59,470 --> 00:29:56,880 Canyon I've been out here since daylight 750 00:30:03,289 --> 00:29:59,480 she's like can I come out there 751 00:30:06,049 --> 00:30:03,299 but uh there's other times like uh 752 00:30:08,029 --> 00:30:06,059 it has it had a like a Roman tub in the 753 00:30:10,130 --> 00:30:08,039 upstairs bathroom anytime I ever tried 754 00:30:12,830 --> 00:30:10,140 to take a soak it sounded would sound 755 00:30:15,470 --> 00:30:12,840 like somebody dragging a metal garbage 756 00:30:17,930 --> 00:30:15,480 can full of scrap metal up and down the 757 00:30:20,570 --> 00:30:17,940 hallway and never could find anything 758 00:30:23,210 --> 00:30:20,580 would hear people sounded like walking 759 00:30:26,330 --> 00:30:23,220 either on the roof or up in the attic 760 00:30:28,789 --> 00:30:26,340 and we had motion detectors and alarms 761 00:30:30,649 --> 00:30:28,799 and cameras never saw anything but 762 00:30:33,470 --> 00:30:30,659 that's the most active house I've ever 763 00:30:35,570 --> 00:30:33,480 made in I've got a video about it over 764 00:30:37,549 --> 00:30:35,580 on 13 past midnight I think I was into a 765 00:30:40,310 --> 00:30:37,559 lot more detail 766 00:30:42,049 --> 00:30:40,320 so we also have two questions 767 00:30:44,450 --> 00:30:42,059 um one from Thomas Carroll what are your 768 00:30:45,710 --> 00:30:44,460 thoughts there's a sleep stack so I 769 00:30:47,570 --> 00:30:45,720 might have to fight if I go through a 770 00:30:49,970 --> 00:30:47,580 portal 771 00:30:52,970 --> 00:30:49,980 what is your thoughts on the Devoto pass 772 00:30:55,070 --> 00:30:52,980 incident in Russia uh yeah we'll pass 773 00:30:57,529 --> 00:30:55,080 that that's a strange one I don't 774 00:30:59,450 --> 00:30:57,539 believe the official explanation that it 775 00:31:00,409 --> 00:30:59,460 was an avalanche 776 00:31:02,149 --> 00:31:00,419 um 777 00:31:03,889 --> 00:31:02,159 some of those people were found with 778 00:31:05,810 --> 00:31:03,899 their tongues ripped out 779 00:31:07,250 --> 00:31:05,820 I don't think an avalanche can rip your 780 00:31:08,990 --> 00:31:07,260 tongue out I mean I guess Anything could 781 00:31:11,690 --> 00:31:09,000 happen if you're being covered in 782 00:31:13,730 --> 00:31:11,700 rushing snow and ice but there were 783 00:31:16,850 --> 00:31:13,740 people that looked like they had 784 00:31:19,490 --> 00:31:16,860 literally cut the tent and ran out with 785 00:31:21,649 --> 00:31:19,500 uh either no or very little clothes on 786 00:31:24,169 --> 00:31:21,659 I I think there was something else 787 00:31:25,789 --> 00:31:24,179 entirely happened there and if I'm 788 00:31:28,549 --> 00:31:25,799 remembering correctly I think the 789 00:31:31,549 --> 00:31:28,559 there's High radiation levels Mary did 790 00:31:34,190 --> 00:31:31,559 uh measured in that area too 791 00:31:36,049 --> 00:31:34,200 so I just again I don't believe the 792 00:31:38,690 --> 00:31:36,059 official explanation there's more to 793 00:31:40,070 --> 00:31:38,700 that story right 794 00:31:42,769 --> 00:31:40,080 um so I'm gonna probably butcher her 795 00:31:47,090 --> 00:31:42,779 name and I'm so I'm so sorry uh 796 00:31:50,029 --> 00:31:47,100 Gray says or asks is the little girl who 797 00:31:52,970 --> 00:31:50,039 was berry picking from Tennessee in the 798 00:31:54,230 --> 00:31:52,980 1950s I believe yeah that that's a 799 00:31:56,690 --> 00:31:54,240 different case than the one I was 800 00:31:58,250 --> 00:31:56,700 speaking of that was a recent one I 801 00:31:59,990 --> 00:31:58,260 believe I've done so many of these 802 00:32:03,409 --> 00:32:00,000 sometimes they get jumbled up in my head 803 00:32:05,330 --> 00:32:03,419 I've got a a master spreadsheet that's 804 00:32:07,610 --> 00:32:05,340 got just about every case we've ever 805 00:32:09,950 --> 00:32:07,620 covered and there's literally hundreds 806 00:32:12,409 --> 00:32:09,960 if not thousands of them on there but I 807 00:32:15,049 --> 00:32:12,419 I know the one you're talking about and 808 00:32:17,690 --> 00:32:15,059 that that's a different one there's I 809 00:32:20,149 --> 00:32:17,700 said a prevalence of that sometimes 810 00:32:22,310 --> 00:32:20,159 people that are picking berries tend to 811 00:32:26,090 --> 00:32:22,320 go missing 812 00:32:27,590 --> 00:32:26,100 picking berries I don't know if the 813 00:32:29,870 --> 00:32:27,600 berry picking had anything to do with it 814 00:32:31,190 --> 00:32:29,880 uh people that go rare or they're 815 00:32:35,990 --> 00:32:31,200 wearing red 816 00:32:38,769 --> 00:32:36,000 I'll get it phrased right here they also 817 00:32:41,570 --> 00:32:38,779 tend to be of German descent 818 00:32:43,549 --> 00:32:41,580 a lot of times it's uh people that are 819 00:32:45,590 --> 00:32:43,559 in Peak physical condition 820 00:32:47,450 --> 00:32:45,600 that that go missing you think it'd be 821 00:32:49,549 --> 00:32:47,460 just the opposite somebody that that 822 00:32:50,690 --> 00:32:49,559 wasn't very Trail Hardy you could see 823 00:32:53,389 --> 00:32:50,700 something happen to them but there's 824 00:32:55,370 --> 00:32:53,399 people that are like Trail Runners the 825 00:32:56,210 --> 00:32:55,380 before the show I was talking about that 826 00:32:58,070 --> 00:32:56,220 uh 827 00:33:00,889 --> 00:32:58,080 guy that went missing upon molo's past 828 00:33:02,570 --> 00:33:00,899 when I went up there recently to film an 829 00:33:05,690 --> 00:33:02,580 intro and outro for the video about him 830 00:33:07,310 --> 00:33:05,700 he was uh setting up a trail run up 831 00:33:09,830 --> 00:33:07,320 there like a 30 mile run through the 832 00:33:11,690 --> 00:33:09,840 mountains so these are people that that 833 00:33:14,269 --> 00:33:11,700 know the mountains and know these trails 834 00:33:16,970 --> 00:33:14,279 and things and that seems strange to me 835 00:33:18,889 --> 00:33:16,980 that people like that could go missing 836 00:33:20,810 --> 00:33:18,899 and uh 837 00:33:22,009 --> 00:33:20,820 what are some of the other factors I 838 00:33:23,930 --> 00:33:22,019 said people wearing red people with 839 00:33:27,110 --> 00:33:23,940 German descent people in Peak physical 840 00:33:29,570 --> 00:33:27,120 condition people that uh go missing tend 841 00:33:33,230 --> 00:33:29,580 to be either very very highly educated 842 00:33:35,570 --> 00:33:33,240 like PhD level or on the autism spectrum 843 00:33:38,450 --> 00:33:35,580 there's not a lot of people in the 844 00:33:40,490 --> 00:33:38,460 middle there the the missing it makes 845 00:33:44,149 --> 00:33:40,500 you wonder why it's almost like 846 00:33:46,430 --> 00:33:44,159 something is picking certain people like 847 00:33:48,889 --> 00:33:46,440 but I you know I don't know it's it's 848 00:33:50,389 --> 00:33:48,899 something to think about and the red you 849 00:33:53,690 --> 00:33:50,399 would think that anybody wearing red 850 00:33:55,490 --> 00:33:53,700 would be easy to spot but uh Dennis 851 00:33:58,149 --> 00:33:55,500 Martin was wearing a red jacket when he 852 00:34:00,950 --> 00:33:58,159 disappeared there was a college age girl 853 00:34:04,070 --> 00:34:00,960 disappeared in I think the 40s maybe 854 00:34:06,049 --> 00:34:04,080 before in the the Bennington triangle 855 00:34:08,030 --> 00:34:06,059 that I was talking about there she was 856 00:34:10,970 --> 00:34:08,040 wearing a red coat 857 00:34:12,889 --> 00:34:10,980 so there's I think one of the strangest 858 00:34:14,810 --> 00:34:12,899 ones we ever 859 00:34:17,869 --> 00:34:14,820 covered was a guy that went missing from 860 00:34:19,250 --> 00:34:17,879 a bus he had ridden to have dinner with 861 00:34:21,649 --> 00:34:19,260 his family 862 00:34:22,510 --> 00:34:21,659 got back on the bus people saw him on 863 00:34:27,169 --> 00:34:22,520 the bus 864 00:34:29,389 --> 00:34:27,179 was supposed to get off he was no longer 865 00:34:32,629 --> 00:34:29,399 on the bus the bus hadn't stopped 866 00:34:35,030 --> 00:34:32,639 anywhere he didn't go out the window out 867 00:34:36,889 --> 00:34:35,040 the back door or anything and his stuff 868 00:34:38,810 --> 00:34:36,899 was still on the bus he'd had I think a 869 00:34:39,829 --> 00:34:38,820 notebook and a pencil and a backpack 870 00:34:43,190 --> 00:34:39,839 with him 871 00:34:45,349 --> 00:34:43,200 and uh his wife had also disappeared I 872 00:34:48,349 --> 00:34:45,359 think that they believed that was she 873 00:34:51,290 --> 00:34:48,359 and I just took off and uh he was a 874 00:34:54,169 --> 00:34:51,300 veteran but yeah he disappeared from a 875 00:34:56,869 --> 00:34:54,179 bus from a vehicle so that that's really 876 00:34:58,790 --> 00:34:56,879 starting circumstance yeah that that 877 00:35:00,230 --> 00:34:58,800 seems odd that like no not even the bus 878 00:35:02,510 --> 00:35:00,240 driver you would think the bus driver 879 00:35:04,370 --> 00:35:02,520 would have saw him even get up or move 880 00:35:06,589 --> 00:35:04,380 because they're supposed to be able to 881 00:35:08,150 --> 00:35:06,599 you know a bus driver and the people 882 00:35:10,430 --> 00:35:08,160 there 883 00:35:12,410 --> 00:35:10,440 you know said no he was on the bus and 884 00:35:13,910 --> 00:35:12,420 then suddenly he just wasn't anymore he 885 00:35:16,310 --> 00:35:13,920 didn't get off any of the stops he 886 00:35:18,109 --> 00:35:16,320 wasn't on the bus at the final stop and 887 00:35:20,569 --> 00:35:18,119 this stuff was still there 888 00:35:22,730 --> 00:35:20,579 and uh catheter gray is also asked you 889 00:35:24,170 --> 00:35:22,740 know she's a friend of mine too uh also 890 00:35:25,790 --> 00:35:24,180 the thoughts about the weather that 891 00:35:28,849 --> 00:35:25,800 takes a bad turn when looking for the 892 00:35:31,310 --> 00:35:28,859 missing that happens very frequently but 893 00:35:32,750 --> 00:35:31,320 now the the debunkers will say that in a 894 00:35:34,970 --> 00:35:32,760 lot of these places where people go 895 00:35:37,130 --> 00:35:34,980 missing national parks and things for 896 00:35:39,710 --> 00:35:37,140 example the weather can change real 897 00:35:41,270 --> 00:35:39,720 quick and the Smokies of hiked up to 898 00:35:43,430 --> 00:35:41,280 Clingmans Dome before the highest point 899 00:35:46,550 --> 00:35:43,440 in the smokies and by the time I got up 900 00:35:48,170 --> 00:35:46,560 to the The Overlook there uh fog had 901 00:35:50,210 --> 00:35:48,180 rolled in or it started raining or 902 00:35:52,550 --> 00:35:50,220 something so bad weather can happen 903 00:35:55,430 --> 00:35:52,560 anywhere in the outdoors but it does 904 00:35:58,130 --> 00:35:55,440 seem strange that it coincides when 905 00:36:00,589 --> 00:35:58,140 people go missing a lot of times when 906 00:36:02,450 --> 00:36:00,599 people have gone missing a kind of a 907 00:36:04,849 --> 00:36:02,460 freak rainstorm will come in or a 908 00:36:07,609 --> 00:36:04,859 snowstorm or something that's it's 909 00:36:09,470 --> 00:36:07,619 almost like something is manipulating 910 00:36:12,410 --> 00:36:09,480 the weather to hamper these search 911 00:36:14,930 --> 00:36:12,420 efforts now again that's it's easy to uh 912 00:36:17,630 --> 00:36:14,940 connect the dots going backwards but 913 00:36:19,370 --> 00:36:17,640 I it happens too often I think to be 914 00:36:22,550 --> 00:36:19,380 coincidence I'm not a big believer in 915 00:36:25,069 --> 00:36:22,560 coincidence anyway I think things happen 916 00:36:27,410 --> 00:36:25,079 for a reason or people do things for a 917 00:36:31,310 --> 00:36:29,150 um a case and I can't remember the guy's 918 00:36:33,230 --> 00:36:31,320 name but he I think he was leaving a 919 00:36:35,990 --> 00:36:33,240 restaurant he was on the phone with like 920 00:36:38,870 --> 00:36:36,000 his girlfriend or something he was very 921 00:36:41,630 --> 00:36:38,880 frantic and she could hear him either 922 00:36:44,750 --> 00:36:41,640 being abducted or something along those 923 00:36:45,950 --> 00:36:44,760 lines yeah that's uh there's a few cases 924 00:36:47,810 --> 00:36:45,960 like that but I think the one in 925 00:36:50,569 --> 00:36:47,820 particular you're talking about is the 926 00:36:51,890 --> 00:36:50,579 Henry McCabe case uh he had been out 927 00:36:52,970 --> 00:36:51,900 with some friends I think they've been 928 00:36:56,210 --> 00:36:52,980 to a meeting and then they had some 929 00:36:58,490 --> 00:36:56,220 drinks and instead of taking him at home 930 00:36:59,750 --> 00:36:58,500 they took his keys from him instead of 931 00:37:02,089 --> 00:36:59,760 giving him a ride home they dropped him 932 00:37:04,390 --> 00:37:02,099 at a gas station and he was trying to 933 00:37:06,829 --> 00:37:04,400 walk and find somebody that's the one 934 00:37:09,170 --> 00:37:06,839 where you could that's some of the most 935 00:37:10,730 --> 00:37:09,180 chilling audio I've ever heard it 936 00:37:13,190 --> 00:37:10,740 literally sounds like he's being held 937 00:37:15,410 --> 00:37:13,200 underwater and he's screaming and you 938 00:37:18,290 --> 00:37:15,420 can hear what sounds like a voice 939 00:37:20,990 --> 00:37:18,300 in the background say quiet or hush or 940 00:37:22,490 --> 00:37:21,000 something like that and there's been 941 00:37:24,890 --> 00:37:22,500 some others like that we covered one 942 00:37:26,450 --> 00:37:24,900 case where a guy had been to uh some 943 00:37:28,910 --> 00:37:26,460 kind of sporting event I think that was 944 00:37:31,190 --> 00:37:28,920 in Boston and he was outside the stadium 945 00:37:33,050 --> 00:37:31,200 called his girlfriend she was coming to 946 00:37:35,150 --> 00:37:33,060 pick him up and literally she was just 947 00:37:37,490 --> 00:37:35,160 around the corner she comes around the 948 00:37:38,990 --> 00:37:37,500 corner he's nowhere to be seen she gets 949 00:37:42,170 --> 00:37:39,000 out looks for him they found his cell 950 00:37:43,849 --> 00:37:42,180 phone smashed on the ground and uh 951 00:37:44,990 --> 00:37:43,859 I'm trying to remember because there's 952 00:37:46,790 --> 00:37:45,000 been a lot of these people that are 953 00:37:49,310 --> 00:37:46,800 found later in the water 954 00:37:50,810 --> 00:37:49,320 but uh but no evidence of them having 955 00:37:52,730 --> 00:37:50,820 ground like 956 00:37:54,829 --> 00:37:52,740 I can't remember if he was found in the 957 00:37:56,210 --> 00:37:54,839 water if he wasn't found at all but 958 00:37:58,910 --> 00:37:56,220 there's there's some like that there was 959 00:38:01,130 --> 00:37:58,920 a case in Ohio where a guy was seen on 960 00:38:04,310 --> 00:38:01,140 CCTV going into a bar 961 00:38:06,890 --> 00:38:04,320 and he never came back out of the bar 962 00:38:07,730 --> 00:38:06,900 but uh he was never found never seen 963 00:38:09,950 --> 00:38:07,740 again 964 00:38:12,109 --> 00:38:09,960 right and then like I said there's some 965 00:38:14,390 --> 00:38:12,119 cases where people are found in the 966 00:38:16,490 --> 00:38:14,400 water and they may have been missing for 967 00:38:18,890 --> 00:38:16,500 a couple of weeks but the body's only 968 00:38:21,290 --> 00:38:18,900 been in the water for a few days so 969 00:38:24,470 --> 00:38:21,300 where were they who had them who put 970 00:38:26,150 --> 00:38:24,480 them in the water there's a smiley face 971 00:38:28,430 --> 00:38:26,160 killer Theory that's another one that 972 00:38:30,410 --> 00:38:28,440 Ted Gunderson the the one that talks 973 00:38:32,690 --> 00:38:30,420 about the occult ritual killings and 974 00:38:34,730 --> 00:38:32,700 stuff he talks about that too that he 975 00:38:37,730 --> 00:38:34,740 thinks there's a a group of people 976 00:38:41,089 --> 00:38:37,740 somehow organized group of serial 977 00:38:43,730 --> 00:38:41,099 killers as it were that that take these 978 00:38:47,210 --> 00:38:43,740 people and then leave them places and uh 979 00:38:49,190 --> 00:38:47,220 usually near or right exactly where 980 00:38:51,589 --> 00:38:49,200 bodies found there'll be a smiley face 981 00:38:53,569 --> 00:38:51,599 painted spray painted there but then 982 00:38:54,770 --> 00:38:53,579 again you've got to explain that away 983 00:38:57,829 --> 00:38:54,780 that's probably the most popular 984 00:39:00,170 --> 00:38:57,839 graffiti in the world is a smiley face 985 00:39:03,109 --> 00:39:00,180 so is it coincidence that that's found 986 00:39:05,390 --> 00:39:03,119 near these murder science or is that you 987 00:39:07,370 --> 00:39:05,400 know some sort of clue or a hint there 988 00:39:09,530 --> 00:39:07,380 are killers like that who like to taunt 989 00:39:12,230 --> 00:39:09,540 the police people like the Zodiac Killer 990 00:39:15,829 --> 00:39:12,240 Jack the Ripper people that would send 991 00:39:17,210 --> 00:39:15,839 letters you know so yeah who knows and 992 00:39:19,670 --> 00:39:17,220 you would think if somebody was being 993 00:39:22,430 --> 00:39:19,680 abducted from a public place 994 00:39:24,650 --> 00:39:22,440 people would Witnesses yeah and that's 995 00:39:26,569 --> 00:39:24,660 like the little girl that we talked 996 00:39:29,569 --> 00:39:26,579 about to Sherry 997 00:39:32,030 --> 00:39:29,579 um somebody their other mothers there 998 00:39:34,010 --> 00:39:32,040 picking up their children her dad was 999 00:39:35,390 --> 00:39:34,020 standing at the end of the driveway and 1000 00:39:37,730 --> 00:39:35,400 like you said it's you could literally 1001 00:39:40,069 --> 00:39:37,740 see down to where the bus stop was but 1002 00:39:42,890 --> 00:39:40,079 nobody saw a thing and there was also 1003 00:39:45,530 --> 00:39:42,900 strange weather in that case as well 1004 00:39:47,270 --> 00:39:45,540 and uh Vincent's asking there are the 1005 00:39:49,430 --> 00:39:47,280 faith to blame for some of the missing 1006 00:39:52,250 --> 00:39:49,440 now the odd thing about that 1007 00:39:54,109 --> 00:39:52,260 you can find people to talk about UFOs 1008 00:39:55,790 --> 00:39:54,119 with you all day you can find people 1009 00:39:58,250 --> 00:39:55,800 that will talk about Bigfoot with you 1010 00:40:00,710 --> 00:39:58,260 all day but you mentioned the FAE and 1011 00:40:03,950 --> 00:40:00,720 people will literally laugh at you but 1012 00:40:05,270 --> 00:40:03,960 if you look into that we've got some 1013 00:40:06,890 --> 00:40:05,280 videos over there called the missing and 1014 00:40:09,530 --> 00:40:06,900 the faith Theory 1015 00:40:11,630 --> 00:40:09,540 and uh if you look into that 1016 00:40:13,609 --> 00:40:11,640 especially in some of the Celtic 1017 00:40:16,730 --> 00:40:13,619 countries where the FAE belief in the 1018 00:40:18,950 --> 00:40:16,740 fairy folk is almost a religion right 1019 00:40:22,670 --> 00:40:18,960 they they have stories going back to 1020 00:40:24,349 --> 00:40:22,680 like 17 1800s of uh Little Men coming 1021 00:40:27,950 --> 00:40:24,359 out of the sky in a Horseless Carriage 1022 00:40:30,650 --> 00:40:27,960 well that's a UFO incident or they talk 1023 00:40:32,270 --> 00:40:30,660 about hairy Giants the the Cherokee and 1024 00:40:34,430 --> 00:40:32,280 some of the other tribes have Legends of 1025 00:40:37,130 --> 00:40:34,440 Harry Giants but if you put that all 1026 00:40:40,190 --> 00:40:37,140 into the context of the FAE and you 1027 00:40:41,450 --> 00:40:40,200 study all the different types of fake 1028 00:40:43,670 --> 00:40:41,460 creatures there are some of them are 1029 00:40:45,829 --> 00:40:43,680 like Elementals they're it's not like 1030 00:40:48,170 --> 00:40:45,839 these little Tinkerbell things they're 1031 00:40:49,670 --> 00:40:48,180 they're like scary and they like to they 1032 00:40:52,190 --> 00:40:49,680 don't like humans 1033 00:40:54,650 --> 00:40:52,200 and uh if you kind of put the faith 1034 00:40:56,150 --> 00:40:54,660 Theory into thought there it sort of 1035 00:40:59,089 --> 00:40:56,160 ties everything together with a nice 1036 00:41:01,069 --> 00:40:59,099 little bow uh the fair supposedly known 1037 00:41:03,230 --> 00:41:01,079 to steal children to keep their 1038 00:41:06,109 --> 00:41:03,240 bloodlines going or they'll steal a kid 1039 00:41:08,930 --> 00:41:06,119 and put a fake head back you know a 1040 00:41:10,250 --> 00:41:08,940 changeling uh they have creatures like I 1041 00:41:13,069 --> 00:41:10,260 said they come out of the sky and they 1042 00:41:15,710 --> 00:41:13,079 have hairy giant type creatures you can 1043 00:41:18,490 --> 00:41:15,720 solve a lot of this paranormal stuff by 1044 00:41:20,510 --> 00:41:18,500 putting it in that context so 1045 00:41:22,910 --> 00:41:20,520 I don't know 1046 00:41:25,730 --> 00:41:22,920 but it it's interesting to think about 1047 00:41:29,089 --> 00:41:25,740 it to put it in that that context 1048 00:41:33,829 --> 00:41:31,190 teddy bear took care 1049 00:41:36,290 --> 00:41:33,839 this took care I mean 1050 00:41:38,870 --> 00:41:36,300 you just you have to wonder with that 1051 00:41:41,089 --> 00:41:38,880 and I I tend to lean towards the faith 1052 00:41:43,069 --> 00:41:41,099 area on some of it I I tend to fall on 1053 00:41:45,770 --> 00:41:43,079 the camp where it's possibly Faye and 1054 00:41:48,230 --> 00:41:45,780 maybe a portal you know that's that's 1055 00:41:50,390 --> 00:41:48,240 where I tend to fall in between yeah and 1056 00:41:52,730 --> 00:41:50,400 like I said there's there's depending on 1057 00:41:54,109 --> 00:41:52,740 the case you can make an argument for a 1058 00:41:56,270 --> 00:41:54,119 lot of different things like that and 1059 00:41:59,030 --> 00:41:56,280 some of them the ones that don't fit any 1060 00:42:02,329 --> 00:41:59,040 rational or scientific explanation yeah 1061 00:42:04,069 --> 00:42:02,339 I think Bigfoot UFOs portals the FAE I 1062 00:42:05,630 --> 00:42:04,079 think it could be any water mixture of 1063 00:42:08,030 --> 00:42:05,640 all those and maybe they even work in 1064 00:42:10,010 --> 00:42:08,040 conjunction with one another but the 1065 00:42:13,069 --> 00:42:10,020 faith Theory makes the most sense to me 1066 00:42:15,349 --> 00:42:13,079 as far as tying it all up together like 1067 00:42:17,329 --> 00:42:15,359 I said with a nice red bow on top if 1068 00:42:19,550 --> 00:42:17,339 it's the fade then it could be all these 1069 00:42:22,190 --> 00:42:19,560 other things are a part of that under 1070 00:42:23,630 --> 00:42:22,200 that hierarchy and that umbrella right 1071 00:42:25,010 --> 00:42:23,640 and there's there's stories in the 1072 00:42:27,410 --> 00:42:25,020 Smokies I mean the Cherokee up there 1073 00:42:30,170 --> 00:42:27,420 called the talk about the I'm gonna 1074 00:42:32,329 --> 00:42:30,180 butcher this one day to Sunday a race of 1075 00:42:34,670 --> 00:42:32,339 little people that they that lived up 1076 00:42:37,430 --> 00:42:34,680 there that they battled with uh there's 1077 00:42:39,530 --> 00:42:37,440 uh evidence of the like fairy lights and 1078 00:42:40,849 --> 00:42:39,540 things in the Smokies of somebody years 1079 00:42:43,250 --> 00:42:40,859 and years ago seeing what they thought 1080 00:42:44,270 --> 00:42:43,260 was somebody with a lantern follow that 1081 00:42:47,569 --> 00:42:44,280 thinking they're going to get out of the 1082 00:42:49,970 --> 00:42:47,579 woods and they get even further lost 1083 00:42:52,010 --> 00:42:49,980 now there are people that have been Led 1084 00:42:53,810 --> 00:42:52,020 Out of the Woods by these things but 1085 00:42:56,390 --> 00:42:53,820 there's so many things that will anger 1086 00:42:57,470 --> 00:42:56,400 the fairies and the faith and one of the 1087 00:42:59,530 --> 00:42:57,480 things one of the most interesting 1088 00:43:02,329 --> 00:42:59,540 things is they don't like the color red 1089 00:43:03,890 --> 00:43:02,339 so that could be a possible explanation 1090 00:43:05,750 --> 00:43:03,900 of why people wearing rainbow missing 1091 00:43:08,930 --> 00:43:05,760 the Fate took them 1092 00:43:11,270 --> 00:43:08,940 um also the berry patches that's not 1093 00:43:13,550 --> 00:43:11,280 only the Fey people's food but that's 1094 00:43:16,250 --> 00:43:13,560 also where they have their Rebels and 1095 00:43:17,930 --> 00:43:16,260 their mating so you know you're in there 1096 00:43:19,550 --> 00:43:17,940 picking berries you're taking their food 1097 00:43:21,470 --> 00:43:19,560 and keeping them from getting their 1098 00:43:24,050 --> 00:43:21,480 groove on because they don't like that 1099 00:43:26,270 --> 00:43:24,060 and then they'll get rid of you yeah I 1100 00:43:28,069 --> 00:43:26,280 mean I think just like anyone else you 1101 00:43:30,170 --> 00:43:28,079 know you deserve them they're going to 1102 00:43:32,450 --> 00:43:30,180 be in trouble 1103 00:43:35,030 --> 00:43:32,460 um we have another question from 1104 00:43:37,730 --> 00:43:35,040 Phantoms and monsters radio what is your 1105 00:43:40,190 --> 00:43:37,740 opinion on upright canines 1106 00:43:42,170 --> 00:43:40,200 uh I believe there's something to that I 1107 00:43:46,430 --> 00:43:42,180 mean if you look back at the Historical 1108 00:43:48,470 --> 00:43:46,440 like the werewolf stories in uh Europe 1109 00:43:50,870 --> 00:43:48,480 Eastern Europe and the Middle Ages and 1110 00:43:53,210 --> 00:43:50,880 things the 1111 00:43:55,910 --> 00:43:53,220 it's there's not a whole lot of 1112 00:43:57,770 --> 00:43:55,920 difference between a canine and or a dog 1113 00:44:00,470 --> 00:43:57,780 and a wolf now people will argue with me 1114 00:44:02,589 --> 00:44:00,480 on that I'm sure but I believe there are 1115 00:44:06,109 --> 00:44:02,599 upright canines there's stories out here 1116 00:44:07,910 --> 00:44:06,119 of uh where there was a family this has 1117 00:44:11,630 --> 00:44:07,920 been years ago in New Mexico that had 1118 00:44:15,589 --> 00:44:11,640 been mauled by a wolf like creature but 1119 00:44:18,589 --> 00:44:15,599 it was seen running away on two legs so 1120 00:44:19,849 --> 00:44:18,599 um Dogman Skin Walkers I'm I'm right in 1121 00:44:22,370 --> 00:44:19,859 the middle of all that now when I moved 1122 00:44:24,550 --> 00:44:22,380 out here to New Mexico I'm in the four 1123 00:44:27,230 --> 00:44:24,560 corners area there's a lot of 1124 00:44:29,990 --> 00:44:27,240 interesting stories out here a lot of uh 1125 00:44:32,750 --> 00:44:30,000 Native uh Magic and curses and things 1126 00:44:35,630 --> 00:44:32,760 been flung back and forth over the years 1127 00:44:37,910 --> 00:44:35,640 so uh I I believe that the upright 1128 00:44:40,250 --> 00:44:37,920 canines are possible 1129 00:44:42,290 --> 00:44:40,260 do you also think maybe a Glimmer Man 1130 00:44:45,109 --> 00:44:42,300 would be possible I've heard about that 1131 00:44:47,210 --> 00:44:45,119 I'm actually familiar with it I've 1132 00:44:50,390 --> 00:44:47,220 actually had an experience with a 1133 00:44:51,950 --> 00:44:50,400 whatever it was I've got a video about 1134 00:44:54,290 --> 00:44:51,960 it over on my channel I'll give you the 1135 00:44:56,210 --> 00:44:54,300 short version I was living in Portland 1136 00:44:58,250 --> 00:44:56,220 at the time I've been to an event at 1137 00:44:59,630 --> 00:44:58,260 Powell's world of books which is I think 1138 00:45:01,609 --> 00:44:59,640 it's the world's largest independent 1139 00:45:03,349 --> 00:45:01,619 bookstore they have over a million 1140 00:45:05,750 --> 00:45:03,359 titles on the Shelf it's an impressive 1141 00:45:08,089 --> 00:45:05,760 place takes up a couple city blocks it's 1142 00:45:09,829 --> 00:45:08,099 five stories tall I think they literally 1143 00:45:11,930 --> 00:45:09,839 hand you a map when you walk in there 1144 00:45:14,809 --> 00:45:11,940 but they'd had some kind of event that 1145 00:45:16,609 --> 00:45:14,819 I'd gone to and I had to walk back down 1146 00:45:18,950 --> 00:45:16,619 to the what they call the transit mall 1147 00:45:20,930 --> 00:45:18,960 to catch the train to get back to my 1148 00:45:22,190 --> 00:45:20,940 neighborhood and I was waiting for the 1149 00:45:25,069 --> 00:45:22,200 Orange Line it was late at night 1150 00:45:27,290 --> 00:45:25,079 probably around 11 midnight something 1151 00:45:29,150 --> 00:45:27,300 like that whatever one it was I think it 1152 00:45:30,950 --> 00:45:29,160 was the last one for that evening 1153 00:45:33,230 --> 00:45:30,960 and uh I'm waiting there and I was the 1154 00:45:36,530 --> 00:45:33,240 only one at this particular train stop 1155 00:45:39,349 --> 00:45:36,540 and first I saw what looked like heat 1156 00:45:41,150 --> 00:45:39,359 rising off pavement or steam coming out 1157 00:45:42,470 --> 00:45:41,160 of a grade or something like that and I 1158 00:45:44,089 --> 00:45:42,480 just walked out because it was in the 1159 00:45:45,230 --> 00:45:44,099 summertime and they all walked over to 1160 00:45:48,470 --> 00:45:45,240 take a look 1161 00:45:51,170 --> 00:45:48,480 and it was actually between a lamp post 1162 00:45:53,210 --> 00:45:51,180 and a permanent garbage can 1163 00:45:55,790 --> 00:45:53,220 and it looked like the outline of a 1164 00:45:58,550 --> 00:45:55,800 human I'll be at a very won a very short 1165 00:46:01,130 --> 00:45:58,560 stature maybe only four feet tall or so 1166 00:46:03,770 --> 00:46:01,140 and when I looked at it it's like it 1167 00:46:05,510 --> 00:46:03,780 noticed me looking at it and it squatted 1168 00:46:08,569 --> 00:46:05,520 down and like hunched down behind the 1169 00:46:11,750 --> 00:46:08,579 garbage can and every hair on my body 1170 00:46:13,730 --> 00:46:11,760 stood up and I I was afraid that if I 1171 00:46:15,890 --> 00:46:13,740 ran that it would come after me and try 1172 00:46:17,390 --> 00:46:15,900 to catch me so I just kind of ambled 1173 00:46:19,670 --> 00:46:17,400 around acting like I wasn't paying any 1174 00:46:21,770 --> 00:46:19,680 attention to it and then when I got to 1175 00:46:24,170 --> 00:46:21,780 the corner like I was waiting for the 1176 00:46:26,510 --> 00:46:24,180 light to change I just darted out into 1177 00:46:28,010 --> 00:46:26,520 traffic ran ran through the traffic had 1178 00:46:30,710 --> 00:46:28,020 people honking and scratching their 1179 00:46:33,109 --> 00:46:30,720 brakes and then kept on up the sidewalk 1180 00:46:34,910 --> 00:46:33,119 until I got to the next train station 1181 00:46:38,450 --> 00:46:34,920 and thankfully there were people there 1182 00:46:40,130 --> 00:46:38,460 but uh after that happened anytime I was 1183 00:46:43,370 --> 00:46:40,140 downtown late at night I took it over 1184 00:46:45,770 --> 00:46:43,380 home but uh I don't know what it was but 1185 00:46:47,450 --> 00:46:45,780 it was like I said it was see-through it 1186 00:46:49,970 --> 00:46:47,460 looked like looking through Saran Wrap 1187 00:46:53,030 --> 00:46:49,980 or the haze that you see coming off the 1188 00:46:55,309 --> 00:46:53,040 road uh in the summertime but it was 1189 00:46:57,950 --> 00:46:55,319 shaped it had a humanoid shaped 1190 00:47:02,210 --> 00:46:57,960 and uh there's a really really good book 1191 00:47:04,609 --> 00:47:02,220 called uh camilio by Robert Guffey talks 1192 00:47:07,609 --> 00:47:04,619 about how he believes that was some sort 1193 00:47:09,470 --> 00:47:07,619 of uh military experiment going along 1194 00:47:11,690 --> 00:47:09,480 and they used people with short stature 1195 00:47:13,370 --> 00:47:11,700 because obviously something that you can 1196 00:47:15,349 --> 00:47:13,380 just barely see or maybe a little bit 1197 00:47:18,829 --> 00:47:15,359 the smaller it is the easier it's going 1198 00:47:20,089 --> 00:47:18,839 to be to get in some place and uh he 1199 00:47:22,490 --> 00:47:20,099 believed they were testing on like 1200 00:47:23,990 --> 00:47:22,500 homeless people and drug addicts and 1201 00:47:26,690 --> 00:47:24,000 people like that that would just 1202 00:47:28,130 --> 00:47:26,700 automatically be discredited where they 1203 00:47:30,170 --> 00:47:28,140 didn't tell what happened to them or 1204 00:47:31,990 --> 00:47:30,180 mentioned it and he had a lot of 1205 00:47:35,450 --> 00:47:32,000 interaction with this guy named Dion 1206 00:47:37,990 --> 00:47:35,460 that uh had seen these creatures but I 1207 00:47:40,490 --> 00:47:38,000 think there's something to that I know 1208 00:47:43,609 --> 00:47:40,500 a few people that have had encounters 1209 00:47:46,670 --> 00:47:43,619 we've covered some uh Bruce mcabee a UFO 1210 00:47:49,670 --> 00:47:46,680 researcher his wife was uh bow hunting 1211 00:47:52,190 --> 00:47:49,680 and in a tree stand and saw some sort of 1212 00:47:54,470 --> 00:47:52,200 creature in a tree a couple trees over 1213 00:47:56,030 --> 00:47:54,480 that she could see through and I think 1214 00:47:58,430 --> 00:47:56,040 she took some pictures and tried to make 1215 00:48:00,410 --> 00:47:58,440 a video of it and at the very same time 1216 00:48:02,390 --> 00:48:00,420 that was happening just on the other 1217 00:48:04,970 --> 00:48:02,400 side of the woods there was a high 1218 00:48:06,589 --> 00:48:04,980 school and people were out at the 1219 00:48:08,750 --> 00:48:06,599 football field like practice or 1220 00:48:11,210 --> 00:48:08,760 something and there was a UFO encounter 1221 00:48:13,190 --> 00:48:11,220 over there people saw something in the 1222 00:48:15,650 --> 00:48:13,200 sky so was it connected to her 1223 00:48:17,569 --> 00:48:15,660 glimmerman deciding I don't know but 1224 00:48:19,370 --> 00:48:17,579 that's again that's kind of a strange 1225 00:48:22,190 --> 00:48:19,380 coincidence I don't really believe in 1226 00:48:25,609 --> 00:48:22,200 coincidence right I agree 1227 00:48:30,230 --> 00:48:25,619 um so Jose Sanchez says has your guest 1228 00:48:34,370 --> 00:48:30,240 heard of the case I stated time anomaly 1229 00:48:40,370 --> 00:48:37,670 um I didn't see the the previous what 1230 00:48:42,290 --> 00:48:40,380 you stated but uh I have heard some time 1231 00:48:45,050 --> 00:48:42,300 anomalies uh 1232 00:48:47,450 --> 00:48:45,060 there's uh all kinds of cases of missing 1233 00:48:49,190 --> 00:48:47,460 time and some of the disappearances and 1234 00:48:52,609 --> 00:48:49,200 things I'm scrolling back here to see if 1235 00:48:55,490 --> 00:48:52,619 I can find here first question but I've 1236 00:48:57,770 --> 00:48:55,500 had missing time myself as a that was 1237 00:49:00,410 --> 00:48:57,780 very strange it was all the time that's 1238 00:49:02,329 --> 00:49:00,420 ever happened I was a teenager I lived 1239 00:49:05,089 --> 00:49:02,339 in a subdivision that was being built in 1240 00:49:07,490 --> 00:49:05,099 three phases phase one had been done I 1241 00:49:10,010 --> 00:49:07,500 lived in phase two those are the newer 1242 00:49:12,170 --> 00:49:10,020 houses and then up above that was phase 1243 00:49:15,290 --> 00:49:12,180 three and they were just developing that 1244 00:49:17,089 --> 00:49:15,300 up there to have the paved Road in but 1245 00:49:20,270 --> 00:49:17,099 everything else was just wooded Lots at 1246 00:49:21,650 --> 00:49:20,280 that point and a neighbor guy about my 1247 00:49:23,809 --> 00:49:21,660 same age we were both in high school 1248 00:49:26,809 --> 00:49:23,819 together we were riding bicycles in the 1249 00:49:28,790 --> 00:49:26,819 undeveloped part and uh 1250 00:49:30,770 --> 00:49:28,800 remember riding by this one particular 1251 00:49:34,069 --> 00:49:30,780 area and I heard some sort of weird 1252 00:49:35,930 --> 00:49:34,079 metallic noise up in the woods and then 1253 00:49:38,210 --> 00:49:35,940 the next thing I remember I'm still on 1254 00:49:40,130 --> 00:49:38,220 my bike I'm still moving but I'm going 1255 00:49:42,290 --> 00:49:40,140 the other direction 1256 00:49:44,990 --> 00:49:42,300 and I'm just like I didn't say anything 1257 00:49:46,970 --> 00:49:45,000 but I'm thinking what just happened and 1258 00:49:48,890 --> 00:49:46,980 then we went on down back into our part 1259 00:49:50,990 --> 00:49:48,900 of the subdivision he went in his 1260 00:49:52,790 --> 00:49:51,000 driveway I went to my house my parents 1261 00:49:54,109 --> 00:49:52,800 like where have you been we were getting 1262 00:49:56,270 --> 00:49:54,119 worried about you 1263 00:49:58,309 --> 00:49:56,280 and uh when we went out it was like 1264 00:50:01,970 --> 00:49:58,319 seven or eight o'clock it was after 11 1265 00:50:03,530 --> 00:50:01,980 when I got home so and I talked to the 1266 00:50:06,290 --> 00:50:03,540 guy's name was Danny I talked to him 1267 00:50:07,970 --> 00:50:06,300 later and that night he was like me said 1268 00:50:10,370 --> 00:50:07,980 it was just so weird I didn't know what 1269 00:50:12,770 --> 00:50:10,380 to think I didn't even mention it and I 1270 00:50:14,690 --> 00:50:12,780 didn't either it was sometime later that 1271 00:50:17,930 --> 00:50:14,700 we actually talked about it but I lost 1272 00:50:19,670 --> 00:50:17,940 about three hours there no idea and same 1273 00:50:21,650 --> 00:50:19,680 thing with him 1274 00:50:23,630 --> 00:50:21,660 um he just remembers we were riding our 1275 00:50:26,210 --> 00:50:23,640 bikes and then suddenly we were riding 1276 00:50:28,550 --> 00:50:26,220 the other direction and three hours to 1277 00:50:30,770 --> 00:50:28,560 go by oh wow have you ever been 1278 00:50:32,690 --> 00:50:30,780 regressed or wanted to be regressed I've 1279 00:50:35,390 --> 00:50:32,700 thought about it but a part of me 1280 00:50:37,430 --> 00:50:35,400 doesn't want to know just in case you 1281 00:50:39,349 --> 00:50:37,440 know I don't want it to be so horrific I 1282 00:50:41,930 --> 00:50:39,359 don't want to know if I was probed by 1283 00:50:44,390 --> 00:50:41,940 aliens or something fair enough fair 1284 00:50:46,430 --> 00:50:44,400 enough I've also heard that you've had a 1285 00:50:48,650 --> 00:50:46,440 black-eyed kids encounter is that true 1286 00:50:50,630 --> 00:50:48,660 yeah that's true that happened back in 1287 00:50:52,190 --> 00:50:50,640 the 90s again I've got a video about 1288 00:50:54,170 --> 00:50:52,200 that when I played that uh during 1289 00:50:58,089 --> 00:50:54,180 Halloween week over at busy persons and 1290 00:50:59,750 --> 00:50:58,099 Mysteries short version of that I was uh 1291 00:51:01,609 --> 00:50:59,760 Moonlighting doing the computer 1292 00:51:05,750 --> 00:51:01,619 networking I was installing a network 1293 00:51:07,370 --> 00:51:05,760 and a medical office building 1294 00:51:09,890 --> 00:51:07,380 and uh 1295 00:51:12,650 --> 00:51:09,900 is in an industrial medical Industrial 1296 00:51:14,210 --> 00:51:12,660 Area came out was finished for that 1297 00:51:16,309 --> 00:51:14,220 night it's about two o'clock in the 1298 00:51:18,829 --> 00:51:16,319 morning and there were two little girls 1299 00:51:21,410 --> 00:51:18,839 over at the edge of the parking lot and 1300 00:51:22,849 --> 00:51:21,420 again this was in like an industrial 1301 00:51:24,109 --> 00:51:22,859 area there was no houses and things 1302 00:51:25,370 --> 00:51:24,119 around and I thought you know that's 1303 00:51:27,650 --> 00:51:25,380 kind of weird 1304 00:51:29,690 --> 00:51:27,660 and uh 1305 00:51:32,390 --> 00:51:29,700 let's get my stuff in my car and every 1306 00:51:34,910 --> 00:51:32,400 time I like look over they were closer 1307 00:51:37,250 --> 00:51:34,920 to me I never saw them walk 1308 00:51:38,809 --> 00:51:37,260 but they were they kept getting closer 1309 00:51:40,130 --> 00:51:38,819 it's like whenever I looked they were 1310 00:51:41,510 --> 00:51:40,140 just standing there and then the next 1311 00:51:43,670 --> 00:51:41,520 time I looked they were a little closer 1312 00:51:44,930 --> 00:51:43,680 and then finally they got under one of 1313 00:51:47,030 --> 00:51:44,940 the street lights in this parking lot 1314 00:51:49,069 --> 00:51:47,040 and I could see that 1315 00:51:51,950 --> 00:51:49,079 they had no eyes or it's like they have 1316 00:51:54,829 --> 00:51:51,960 lumps of coal for eyes uh Dressed 1317 00:51:57,170 --> 00:51:54,839 similarly uh dark clothing a lighter 1318 00:51:58,790 --> 00:51:57,180 colored hoodie one I would guess would 1319 00:52:01,549 --> 00:51:58,800 probably be about nine or ten the other 1320 00:52:03,950 --> 00:52:01,559 one was probably 12 or 13 just based on 1321 00:52:06,230 --> 00:52:03,960 their size the smaller one never said 1322 00:52:08,450 --> 00:52:06,240 anything but the taller the two when 1323 00:52:10,970 --> 00:52:08,460 they got close enough for me to hear it 1324 00:52:12,829 --> 00:52:10,980 was like a litany just over and over he 1325 00:52:15,410 --> 00:52:12,839 won't leave us out here he'll let us in 1326 00:52:18,049 --> 00:52:15,420 the car he'll take us with it it's dark 1327 00:52:20,990 --> 00:52:18,059 it's cold and it wasn't cold it was in 1328 00:52:23,329 --> 00:52:21,000 the summertime but they never talked to 1329 00:52:26,690 --> 00:52:23,339 me but she was talking to the smaller 1330 00:52:28,190 --> 00:52:26,700 one about me and so I'm freaking out by 1331 00:52:30,890 --> 00:52:28,200 this point I finally got everything in 1332 00:52:33,049 --> 00:52:30,900 the car I jumped in the car and by that 1333 00:52:35,210 --> 00:52:33,059 time they were right up by the passenger 1334 00:52:36,950 --> 00:52:35,220 side door well first of all if it was 1335 00:52:39,710 --> 00:52:36,960 two actual kids 1336 00:52:42,530 --> 00:52:39,720 I wouldn't feel comfortable putting two 1337 00:52:44,210 --> 00:52:42,540 underage children in a seat that's just 1338 00:52:46,190 --> 00:52:44,220 meant for one person 1339 00:52:49,430 --> 00:52:46,200 because it's warm weather and left the 1340 00:52:51,049 --> 00:52:49,440 top down but it it frightened me so bad 1341 00:52:54,410 --> 00:52:51,059 you'd have to hear me tell the whole 1342 00:52:56,750 --> 00:52:54,420 story but that was the most irrational 1343 00:52:58,609 --> 00:52:56,760 fear I've ever felt it just it was I 1344 00:53:01,790 --> 00:52:58,619 think it was demonic in nature it just 1345 00:53:03,890 --> 00:53:01,800 washed over me and uh it wasn't even a 1346 00:53:06,589 --> 00:53:03,900 fight or flight thing it was just pure 1347 00:53:08,530 --> 00:53:06,599 flight uh it got like thunder with the 1348 00:53:10,670 --> 00:53:08,540 keys got my car started 1349 00:53:12,710 --> 00:53:10,680 instead of backing and going the way 1350 00:53:13,910 --> 00:53:12,720 normally because they were right there I 1351 00:53:16,190 --> 00:53:13,920 jumped the curb and took off down 1352 00:53:18,890 --> 00:53:16,200 through the lawn of the place and then 1353 00:53:21,049 --> 00:53:18,900 all the way to where I was going I had a 1354 00:53:22,549 --> 00:53:21,059 girlfriend who lived close by usually if 1355 00:53:24,290 --> 00:53:22,559 I worked late I'd go and spend the night 1356 00:53:27,170 --> 00:53:24,300 at her house I could be 1357 00:53:28,250 --> 00:53:27,180 back to my day job on time but that 1358 00:53:31,609 --> 00:53:28,260 night I turned the opposite direction 1359 00:53:33,109 --> 00:53:31,619 drove 25 miles to my parents house and 1360 00:53:35,270 --> 00:53:33,119 the whole time I'm driving down this 1361 00:53:37,849 --> 00:53:35,280 four-lane highway and I keep looking 1362 00:53:40,430 --> 00:53:37,859 over in the seat or in my mirror but 1363 00:53:43,190 --> 00:53:40,440 it's like I expected to see them in the 1364 00:53:45,650 --> 00:53:43,200 car with me or run along beside it or 1365 00:53:47,150 --> 00:53:45,660 something that that's the strangest 1366 00:53:49,549 --> 00:53:47,160 thing I've ever experienced in the most 1367 00:53:52,670 --> 00:53:49,559 frightened I've ever been I've had some 1368 00:53:55,849 --> 00:53:52,680 I've been in some hairy situations but 1369 00:53:58,250 --> 00:53:55,859 that was that one tops the 1370 00:53:59,930 --> 00:53:58,260 Takes the Cake as they say and I've had 1371 00:54:03,410 --> 00:53:59,940 people ask me would you want to see them 1372 00:54:05,630 --> 00:54:03,420 again and I'm like part of me wants to 1373 00:54:08,930 --> 00:54:05,640 and then a part of me hopes I never do 1374 00:54:12,530 --> 00:54:08,940 and uh went until recently somebody else 1375 00:54:14,750 --> 00:54:12,540 told my story and it was the first time 1376 00:54:16,309 --> 00:54:14,760 because I've told it several times and 1377 00:54:17,630 --> 00:54:16,319 I've had weird things happen usually 1378 00:54:20,270 --> 00:54:17,640 when I talk about it we'll see if 1379 00:54:23,690 --> 00:54:20,280 anything happens tonight but hearing 1380 00:54:25,790 --> 00:54:23,700 somebody else tell me Tell it and me 1381 00:54:29,109 --> 00:54:25,800 listening to it is the first time that I 1382 00:54:31,370 --> 00:54:29,119 ever felt anything other than 1383 00:54:34,670 --> 00:54:31,380 fright from these little girls I 1384 00:54:36,049 --> 00:54:34,680 actually felt compassion and a sense of 1385 00:54:38,450 --> 00:54:36,059 melancholy I'm thinking those poor 1386 00:54:41,690 --> 00:54:38,460 little girls and I just left them out 1387 00:54:43,190 --> 00:54:41,700 there but I don't I think again Willie 1388 00:54:45,770 --> 00:54:43,200 Streeter in his house I don't think he 1389 00:54:48,170 --> 00:54:45,780 was really two little kids I think that 1390 00:54:50,089 --> 00:54:48,180 that's what whatever it was that's how 1391 00:54:52,010 --> 00:54:50,099 it appeared to me 1392 00:54:55,730 --> 00:54:52,020 I I don't blame you for leaving them 1393 00:55:00,290 --> 00:54:57,890 do you think maybe that you know the 1394 00:55:02,089 --> 00:55:00,300 black-eyed kids are responsible for some 1395 00:55:05,450 --> 00:55:02,099 disappearances 1396 00:55:07,970 --> 00:55:05,460 uh that's an interesting Theory 1397 00:55:10,010 --> 00:55:07,980 um if I mean who knows what would have 1398 00:55:12,290 --> 00:55:10,020 happened if I'd let him in the car I've 1399 00:55:14,750 --> 00:55:12,300 heard stories of people letting them in 1400 00:55:16,069 --> 00:55:14,760 their homes and uh one story in 1401 00:55:20,870 --> 00:55:16,079 particular the 1402 00:55:23,150 --> 00:55:20,880 the lady let two of them in and uh 1403 00:55:24,770 --> 00:55:23,160 then like a car showed up in the 1404 00:55:27,230 --> 00:55:24,780 driveway and all the lights in the house 1405 00:55:29,510 --> 00:55:27,240 went out and the kids left and then the 1406 00:55:31,450 --> 00:55:29,520 husband started he had some kind of 1407 00:55:33,530 --> 00:55:31,460 weird uh 1408 00:55:35,690 --> 00:55:33,540 hemorrhaging thing that happened to him 1409 00:55:37,309 --> 00:55:35,700 right after and he passed away and then 1410 00:55:40,130 --> 00:55:37,319 she ended up with some really rare form 1411 00:55:42,049 --> 00:55:40,140 of cancer and I I don't know if she's 1412 00:55:45,170 --> 00:55:42,059 still alive or not but there's there's 1413 00:55:48,109 --> 00:55:45,180 something to it it's almost and there's 1414 00:55:49,910 --> 00:55:48,119 a really good book log out of print uh 1415 00:55:51,710 --> 00:55:49,920 about author named Jim Brandon he wrote 1416 00:55:53,630 --> 00:55:51,720 a book called weird America is like a 1417 00:55:56,210 --> 00:55:53,640 guidebook but then he wrote another book 1418 00:55:59,450 --> 00:55:56,220 called The Rebirth of pan and it talked 1419 00:56:02,030 --> 00:55:59,460 about this pan got pan as a cosmic 1420 00:56:02,750 --> 00:56:02,040 trickster figure and he sort of surmised 1421 00:56:05,150 --> 00:56:02,760 that 1422 00:56:07,609 --> 00:56:05,160 whatever this is is responsible for 1423 00:56:09,349 --> 00:56:07,619 things like the Men in Black you know 1424 00:56:11,870 --> 00:56:09,359 the Men in Black show up they wear nice 1425 00:56:12,589 --> 00:56:11,880 clothes they're driving shiny cars that 1426 00:56:15,589 --> 00:56:12,599 are 1427 00:56:17,450 --> 00:56:15,599 maybe decades out of date but they talk 1428 00:56:19,370 --> 00:56:17,460 weird and they ask weird questions you 1429 00:56:21,410 --> 00:56:19,380 know you think well they're driving nice 1430 00:56:22,730 --> 00:56:21,420 cars they're wearing nice clothes why 1431 00:56:24,290 --> 00:56:22,740 wouldn't people want to talk to them 1432 00:56:26,690 --> 00:56:24,300 because they scare people they 1433 00:56:28,910 --> 00:56:26,700 intimidate Witnesses and then you have 1434 00:56:32,089 --> 00:56:28,920 like the the whole Phantom clown 1435 00:56:34,670 --> 00:56:32,099 phenomena that uh Lauren Coleman first 1436 00:56:37,250 --> 00:56:34,680 wrote about that like back in the 80s 1437 00:56:39,349 --> 00:56:37,260 uh then you know well we'll send clowns 1438 00:56:40,849 --> 00:56:39,359 out everybody loves clowns but these are 1439 00:56:43,910 --> 00:56:40,859 creepy clowns that come out of the woods 1440 00:56:46,130 --> 00:56:43,920 at night same thing with this well kids 1441 00:56:48,290 --> 00:56:46,140 you know we can send kids out everybody 1442 00:56:49,849 --> 00:56:48,300 loves kids people will talk to kids but 1443 00:56:52,309 --> 00:56:49,859 these are creepy kids with black eyes 1444 00:56:55,190 --> 00:56:52,319 that that you know beg to be let in and 1445 00:56:56,210 --> 00:56:55,200 stuff it's almost I was on with uh Clyde 1446 00:56:58,849 --> 00:56:56,220 Lewis 1447 00:57:00,069 --> 00:56:58,859 uh right before Halloween uh Sandy and I 1448 00:57:02,930 --> 00:57:00,079 were on there and we talked about 1449 00:57:04,370 --> 00:57:02,940 vampires and vampirism and that's kind 1450 00:57:07,370 --> 00:57:04,380 of the same thing with the black-eyed 1451 00:57:09,470 --> 00:57:07,380 kids you have to let them in they have 1452 00:57:11,510 --> 00:57:09,480 to ask to come in you have to let them 1453 00:57:13,790 --> 00:57:11,520 in and that's true with a lot of stuff 1454 00:57:16,130 --> 00:57:13,800 in the Paranormal I've known people that 1455 00:57:18,770 --> 00:57:16,140 would contact an entity on a Ouija board 1456 00:57:20,510 --> 00:57:18,780 that would uh ask to please come through 1457 00:57:23,569 --> 00:57:20,520 or there's been people that have 1458 00:57:25,730 --> 00:57:23,579 willingly lent stuff in I was on a 1459 00:57:27,770 --> 00:57:25,740 channel called Amber's pair world the 1460 00:57:30,650 --> 00:57:27,780 other night and she recommended not 1461 00:57:33,049 --> 00:57:30,660 putting a welcome mat out your doorstep 1462 00:57:34,910 --> 00:57:33,059 that that's you know some kind of 1463 00:57:37,069 --> 00:57:34,920 wandering Spirit or someone could say 1464 00:57:38,690 --> 00:57:37,079 that you've already welcomed it in yeah 1465 00:57:40,370 --> 00:57:38,700 and I said well what if you flipped it 1466 00:57:42,490 --> 00:57:40,380 upside down she's like no that could be 1467 00:57:45,410 --> 00:57:42,500 even worse because then something from 1468 00:57:47,809 --> 00:57:45,420 underneath could see that and come up 1469 00:57:50,450 --> 00:57:47,819 she said just either get one that says 1470 00:57:52,730 --> 00:57:50,460 go away or don't have one at all I've 1471 00:57:55,130 --> 00:57:52,740 heard of that I have it's it's almost 1472 00:57:57,470 --> 00:57:55,140 like it's trying to figure out what we 1473 00:58:00,410 --> 00:57:57,480 would be comfortable letting in like the 1474 00:58:03,230 --> 00:58:00,420 clowns and I I jokingly said on a show 1475 00:58:05,990 --> 00:58:03,240 one time that if they ever come out with 1476 00:58:08,390 --> 00:58:06,000 Uh Black-eyed bikini models with pizza 1477 00:58:09,790 --> 00:58:08,400 and metal albums you'll know what 1478 00:58:12,290 --> 00:58:09,800 happened to me 1479 00:58:14,630 --> 00:58:12,300 I just saw a question from Karen 1480 00:58:17,630 --> 00:58:14,640 Peterson and it was a good one she asked 1481 00:58:20,870 --> 00:58:17,640 if they were energy vampires 1482 00:58:22,670 --> 00:58:20,880 ask yourself what is energy vampires uh 1483 00:58:24,589 --> 00:58:22,680 I'm assuming the black-eyed kids I can't 1484 00:58:27,650 --> 00:58:24,599 find a question now but I'm thinking I 1485 00:58:29,210 --> 00:58:27,660 didn't see it I I think so I think a lot 1486 00:58:31,910 --> 00:58:29,220 of those entities 1487 00:58:35,870 --> 00:58:31,920 our our energy vampires are psychic 1488 00:58:37,609 --> 00:58:35,880 vampires and there are 1489 00:58:39,530 --> 00:58:37,619 yeah there's something about because 1490 00:58:41,089 --> 00:58:39,540 that that fear that I felt like I said 1491 00:58:42,950 --> 00:58:41,099 it was nothing that I'd ever felt before 1492 00:58:44,990 --> 00:58:42,960 and I've seen some scary stuff I mean 1493 00:58:47,390 --> 00:58:45,000 run out of the woods screaming type 1494 00:58:50,630 --> 00:58:47,400 stuff when I was a kid but this was 1495 00:58:53,030 --> 00:58:50,640 beyond that but there was a Darkness 1496 00:58:56,030 --> 00:58:53,040 there was a dark energy about them and 1497 00:58:58,010 --> 00:58:56,040 I've had experiences with that before 1498 00:59:00,049 --> 00:58:58,020 um right after my daughter was born she 1499 00:59:02,150 --> 00:59:00,059 was jaundiced and had to spend the night 1500 00:59:05,270 --> 00:59:02,160 in East Tennessee Children's Hospital 1501 00:59:07,910 --> 00:59:05,280 under uh the ultraviolet lights or 1502 00:59:10,250 --> 00:59:07,920 whatever they use there to to fix that 1503 00:59:12,950 --> 00:59:10,260 condition and that was like the worst 1504 00:59:15,289 --> 00:59:12,960 place I'd ever been in I could feel 1505 00:59:18,109 --> 00:59:15,299 in my mind's eye it looked like a just a 1506 00:59:20,630 --> 00:59:18,119 Darkness or a dark shapeless form that 1507 00:59:23,450 --> 00:59:20,640 was hanging over that hospital and 1508 00:59:25,250 --> 00:59:23,460 drawing the energy from the pain of 1509 00:59:27,470 --> 00:59:25,260 these innocent children 1510 00:59:29,930 --> 00:59:27,480 and uh I think there are things out 1511 00:59:32,030 --> 00:59:29,940 there like that that draw energy and 1512 00:59:33,650 --> 00:59:32,040 I've had that happen like I said I don't 1513 00:59:37,069 --> 00:59:33,660 claim to have any powers or anything but 1514 00:59:39,349 --> 00:59:37,079 I am empathic uh the the feelings I have 1515 00:59:42,289 --> 00:59:39,359 and stuff that I sense and things it's 1516 00:59:45,470 --> 00:59:42,299 intensified but uh I've had that happen 1517 00:59:47,450 --> 00:59:45,480 in an old folks home retirement home or 1518 00:59:49,910 --> 00:59:47,460 hospital go in there and you can feel 1519 00:59:52,190 --> 00:59:49,920 people just pulling the energy off of it 1520 00:59:53,750 --> 00:59:52,200 and you know an Alzheimer's patient or 1521 00:59:56,089 --> 00:59:53,760 somebody with dementia they don't even 1522 00:59:58,730 --> 00:59:56,099 know that they're doing it and you have 1523 01:00:00,770 --> 00:59:58,740 to you have to guard yourself against 1524 01:00:03,650 --> 01:00:00,780 that you have to either I know people 1525 01:00:05,870 --> 01:00:03,660 that do use visualization techniques to 1526 01:00:07,490 --> 01:00:05,880 put a white light around you or some 1527 01:00:08,809 --> 01:00:07,500 kind of protection around you I know 1528 01:00:11,630 --> 01:00:08,819 people that carry certain type of 1529 01:00:13,549 --> 01:00:11,640 crystals and things like that to prevent 1530 01:00:15,370 --> 01:00:13,559 that from hanging but I believe it's 1531 01:00:18,109 --> 01:00:15,380 real I believe that there are 1532 01:00:19,549 --> 01:00:18,119 intentional and unintentional energy 1533 01:00:22,250 --> 01:00:19,559 vampires 1534 01:00:24,289 --> 01:00:22,260 I agree I I totally agree in hospitals 1535 01:00:27,530 --> 01:00:24,299 and nursing some homes just like you 1536 01:00:30,410 --> 01:00:27,540 said I I think they they birthed them 1537 01:00:32,750 --> 01:00:30,420 basically or at least some form of them 1538 01:00:36,589 --> 01:00:32,760 because of everything that happens there 1539 01:00:39,589 --> 01:00:36,599 um so James West asked have you ever had 1540 01:00:42,410 --> 01:00:39,599 any experience with shadow people or a 1541 01:00:45,589 --> 01:00:42,420 shadow creature I've seen shadow figures 1542 01:00:47,870 --> 01:00:45,599 a house that I lived in in Oregon 1543 01:00:50,210 --> 01:00:47,880 um one night I was in walking into the 1544 01:00:51,349 --> 01:00:50,220 kitchen and I saw what looked like a 1545 01:00:53,569 --> 01:00:51,359 shadow 1546 01:00:56,150 --> 01:00:53,579 of a person but there was no person that 1547 01:00:56,990 --> 01:00:56,160 came out of the laundry room through the 1548 01:01:11,390 --> 01:00:57,000 the 1549 01:01:13,609 --> 01:01:11,400 renting from about that and she said oh 1550 01:01:16,329 --> 01:01:13,619 that's just my husband that passed away 1551 01:01:20,030 --> 01:01:16,339 her husband had died in a car accident 1552 01:01:21,829 --> 01:01:20,040 and she would see this shadow in the 1553 01:01:24,049 --> 01:01:21,839 house now I don't know you know if it 1554 01:01:26,510 --> 01:01:24,059 was him or if that was just her belief 1555 01:01:28,370 --> 01:01:26,520 but I saw my dog saw it too he didn't 1556 01:01:30,710 --> 01:01:28,380 bark at it but he's watching his ears 1557 01:01:32,809 --> 01:01:30,720 are up and he's wagging his tail but it 1558 01:01:36,349 --> 01:01:32,819 it looked like a person's Shadow with no 1559 01:01:39,109 --> 01:01:36,359 person casting a shadow now that's I 1560 01:01:41,809 --> 01:01:39,119 haven't seen much stuff like that but 1561 01:01:44,030 --> 01:01:41,819 I've seen it happen what do you think 1562 01:01:47,150 --> 01:01:44,040 they are what is your personal opinion 1563 01:01:49,430 --> 01:01:47,160 I think it's just some other kind of uh 1564 01:01:50,329 --> 01:01:49,440 spirit or entity maybe one that that 1565 01:01:53,390 --> 01:01:50,339 can't 1566 01:01:55,609 --> 01:01:53,400 uh turn into a full Apparition I think 1567 01:01:56,450 --> 01:01:55,619 they seem to work on energy if you 1568 01:01:58,789 --> 01:01:56,460 notice 1569 01:02:01,910 --> 01:01:58,799 ghosts and haughties and things it tend 1570 01:02:03,829 --> 01:02:01,920 to only last so long it's like they run 1571 01:02:05,390 --> 01:02:03,839 out of energy or their batteries drained 1572 01:02:07,970 --> 01:02:05,400 down I mean I've never heard of a ghost 1573 01:02:10,069 --> 01:02:07,980 of a dinosaur or ghost in the caveman 1574 01:02:12,589 --> 01:02:10,079 anything like that the oldest haunting 1575 01:02:14,650 --> 01:02:12,599 that I'm aware of is uh one in England 1576 01:02:16,789 --> 01:02:14,660 where a guy had uh 1577 01:02:19,130 --> 01:02:16,799 apparitions is more of a residual 1578 01:02:21,770 --> 01:02:19,140 Haunting of Roman soldiers marching 1579 01:02:24,049 --> 01:02:21,780 through his basement and uh did some 1580 01:02:25,970 --> 01:02:24,059 research and he found out that that 1581 01:02:28,370 --> 01:02:25,980 where his basement was that was the 1582 01:02:29,630 --> 01:02:28,380 level of the old road to the area with 1583 01:02:33,109 --> 01:02:29,640 the Romans 1584 01:02:35,329 --> 01:02:33,119 were around but uh again there was Stone 1585 01:02:38,150 --> 01:02:35,339 and I believe Stone tape theory that 1586 01:02:40,849 --> 01:02:38,160 sometimes things can get captured in 1587 01:02:42,650 --> 01:02:40,859 stone particularly quartz or granite and 1588 01:02:45,109 --> 01:02:42,660 somehow atmospheric conditions or 1589 01:02:47,329 --> 01:02:45,119 whatever can cause that to replay over 1590 01:02:50,870 --> 01:02:47,339 and over like a videotape you think 1591 01:02:54,410 --> 01:02:50,880 about video all that is it's a mylar 1592 01:02:56,329 --> 01:02:54,420 with ferrous oxide on there and then you 1593 01:02:58,370 --> 01:02:56,339 run it over the recording heads it 1594 01:03:01,250 --> 01:02:58,380 records to that tape and then you run it 1595 01:03:02,990 --> 01:03:01,260 over the playback heads and it's it's 1596 01:03:05,510 --> 01:03:03,000 kind of a roundabout way of getting 1597 01:03:08,690 --> 01:03:05,520 there but it's the same thing I think as 1598 01:03:10,430 --> 01:03:08,700 uh the the whatever's in Granite in 1599 01:03:12,410 --> 01:03:10,440 courts and things like that and you know 1600 01:03:14,450 --> 01:03:12,420 they might go watches out of Courts you 1601 01:03:17,150 --> 01:03:14,460 can make a what they call a foxhole 1602 01:03:18,950 --> 01:03:17,160 radio with a quartz crystal they have 1603 01:03:21,970 --> 01:03:18,960 energy they're able to pick up things 1604 01:03:24,349 --> 01:03:21,980 and and amplify it they're very powerful 1605 01:03:26,750 --> 01:03:24,359 I'm probably showing my age there but 1606 01:03:29,089 --> 01:03:26,760 back when I was in the scouts we made a 1607 01:03:30,650 --> 01:03:29,099 crystal radio you had like a a court a 1608 01:03:32,870 --> 01:03:30,660 piece of quartz and a razor blade and 1609 01:03:34,910 --> 01:03:32,880 some copper wire and a nail and you 1610 01:03:37,130 --> 01:03:34,920 could actually connect a little earphone 1611 01:03:39,349 --> 01:03:37,140 to it you could pick up radio signals 1612 01:03:41,030 --> 01:03:39,359 through chords A lot of people have 1613 01:03:44,410 --> 01:03:41,040 quartz watches so there's there's 1614 01:03:48,289 --> 01:03:44,420 something to all that oh wow 1615 01:03:50,750 --> 01:03:48,299 yeah Google uh uh so they called it a 1616 01:03:53,870 --> 01:03:50,760 foxhole radio but Google a crystal radio 1617 01:03:55,609 --> 01:03:53,880 and that's you can make one 1618 01:03:58,670 --> 01:03:55,619 so I have one more question before we 1619 01:04:03,770 --> 01:04:01,549 theory about wild people in the national 1620 01:04:06,230 --> 01:04:03,780 parks like do you think they exist do 1621 01:04:08,750 --> 01:04:06,240 you think well I can see how they can 1622 01:04:10,430 --> 01:04:08,760 exist because I've heard people try to 1623 01:04:11,750 --> 01:04:10,440 debunk that and say well you know 1624 01:04:14,089 --> 01:04:11,760 there's no way people could live in 1625 01:04:15,410 --> 01:04:14,099 there and you not know about it well my 1626 01:04:16,970 --> 01:04:15,420 answer to that is you just haven't been 1627 01:04:19,069 --> 01:04:16,980 far enough back in some of these 1628 01:04:22,010 --> 01:04:19,079 national parks and I like to point 1629 01:04:24,289 --> 01:04:22,020 toward uh Eric Rudolph the abortion 1630 01:04:26,750 --> 01:04:24,299 clinic bomber he was on the top of the 1631 01:04:28,990 --> 01:04:26,760 FBI's most wanted list he hid in 1632 01:04:32,630 --> 01:04:29,000 Nantahala National Forest 1633 01:04:36,650 --> 01:04:32,640 for about five or six years and this was 1634 01:04:39,650 --> 01:04:36,660 somebody with no real uh outdoor or 1635 01:04:41,089 --> 01:04:39,660 survival experience he just the only 1636 01:04:43,190 --> 01:04:41,099 reason he got caught he was sneaking 1637 01:04:45,770 --> 01:04:43,200 into some little town there in North 1638 01:04:47,809 --> 01:04:45,780 Carolina and getting a Dale bread and 1639 01:04:49,730 --> 01:04:47,819 snack cakes out of the dumpster and a 1640 01:04:51,910 --> 01:04:49,740 rookie cop recognized it from the poster 1641 01:04:54,049 --> 01:04:51,920 but if somebody like that would know 1642 01:04:57,109 --> 01:04:54,059 woodlower Woodcraft experience could 1643 01:04:59,750 --> 01:04:57,119 hide for that long There Are Places 1644 01:05:02,030 --> 01:04:59,760 in those national parks that you might 1645 01:05:04,430 --> 01:05:02,040 be the the first human that's ever set 1646 01:05:08,270 --> 01:05:04,440 foot in there or at least the first one 1647 01:05:10,970 --> 01:05:08,280 in a long time and uh Dwight McCarter 1648 01:05:13,849 --> 01:05:10,980 he's a Great Smokies National Park he 1649 01:05:16,549 --> 01:05:13,859 was a lead tracker and he worked the 1650 01:05:18,049 --> 01:05:16,559 Dennis Martin cases of uh he's got some 1651 01:05:19,930 --> 01:05:18,059 interesting theories about that he said 1652 01:05:22,670 --> 01:05:19,940 there are 1653 01:05:25,430 --> 01:05:22,680 not necessarily feral people but 1654 01:05:28,130 --> 01:05:25,440 off-grid people that live in the Parks 1655 01:05:30,829 --> 01:05:28,140 there's another guy here on YouTube that 1656 01:05:32,569 --> 01:05:30,839 has a channel called South course 10 and 1657 01:05:34,789 --> 01:05:32,579 he talks about before it became a 1658 01:05:36,650 --> 01:05:34,799 national park the smokies that some of 1659 01:05:38,870 --> 01:05:36,660 his relatives were hired by the 1660 01:05:41,150 --> 01:05:38,880 government to go in and Hunt these feral 1661 01:05:44,690 --> 01:05:41,160 people and thin them out not only are 1662 01:05:46,609 --> 01:05:44,700 they feral they're cannibals too and he 1663 01:05:49,190 --> 01:05:46,619 claims they're what got Dennis Martin 1664 01:05:50,510 --> 01:05:49,200 either for breeding purposes or they ate 1665 01:05:52,250 --> 01:05:50,520 him I don't even want to think about 1666 01:05:54,650 --> 01:05:52,260 that but yeah 1667 01:05:56,990 --> 01:05:54,660 but it's I believe they can exist I've 1668 01:06:00,770 --> 01:05:57,000 been far enough back in some places that 1669 01:06:03,530 --> 01:06:00,780 if you wanted to and if if you had grown 1670 01:06:05,870 --> 01:06:03,540 up in those woods say a few whole family 1671 01:06:08,390 --> 01:06:05,880 or whole generations of your family had 1672 01:06:10,069 --> 01:06:08,400 lived way back in those woods and 1673 01:06:12,349 --> 01:06:10,079 offered there's there's plenty of food 1674 01:06:14,089 --> 01:06:12,359 there's plenty of water there's shelter 1675 01:06:16,490 --> 01:06:14,099 if you know what you're doing it would 1676 01:06:18,289 --> 01:06:16,500 be possible to get far enough in just 1677 01:06:20,750 --> 01:06:18,299 about any national it's a state park 1678 01:06:22,490 --> 01:06:20,760 even to where nobody could find you if 1679 01:06:24,829 --> 01:06:22,500 you didn't want to be found 1680 01:06:26,990 --> 01:06:24,839 I totally agree with that I really do 1681 01:06:29,270 --> 01:06:27,000 well it has been a pleasure talking with 1682 01:06:30,890 --> 01:06:29,280 you tonight Steve thank you so much for 1683 01:06:32,450 --> 01:06:30,900 coming every minute of it Bernadette 1684 01:06:34,069 --> 01:06:32,460 thank you for having me on like I said I 1685 01:06:38,210 --> 01:06:34,079 didn't realize this was your Premiere 1686 01:06:40,069 --> 01:06:38,220 episode oh no it's fine I think this is 1687 01:06:41,630 --> 01:06:40,079 going to do well you're engaging and 1688 01:06:43,609 --> 01:06:41,640 entertaining you ask the right questions 1689 01:06:45,710 --> 01:06:43,619 thank you and I would love to have you 1690 01:06:47,390 --> 01:06:45,720 back I really would absolutely and 1691 01:06:49,430 --> 01:06:47,400 likewise I won't have you on 13 past 1692 01:06:52,089 --> 01:06:49,440 midnight sometime I would love to be on 1693 01:06:54,770 --> 01:06:52,099 your stories okay we'll talk uh offline 1694 01:06:56,630 --> 01:06:54,780 yeah exactly so tell tell people where 1695 01:06:58,670 --> 01:06:56,640 they can find you 1696 01:07:01,730 --> 01:06:58,680 um the main Channel missing persons and 1697 01:07:04,549 --> 01:07:01,740 Mysteries here on YouTube and then also 1698 01:07:06,829 --> 01:07:04,559 13 past midnight thanks for putting my 1699 01:07:08,450 --> 01:07:06,839 books up there uh strange things in the 1700 01:07:11,150 --> 01:07:08,460 woods is the one that started all that's 1701 01:07:12,950 --> 01:07:11,160 other people's stories and it's not all 1702 01:07:14,870 --> 01:07:12,960 paranormal there's some things that are 1703 01:07:17,270 --> 01:07:14,880 poignant there's some things that tend 1704 01:07:19,370 --> 01:07:17,280 out to be humorous when they find out it 1705 01:07:21,829 --> 01:07:19,380 wasn't paranormal but there's some scary 1706 01:07:24,049 --> 01:07:21,839 scary stuff in there this was originally 1707 01:07:25,430 --> 01:07:24,059 two volumes my publisher when I went 1708 01:07:28,970 --> 01:07:25,440 with a traditional publisher they 1709 01:07:31,430 --> 01:07:28,980 combined it into one and then I used to 1710 01:07:33,170 --> 01:07:31,440 go on shows and talk about this book and 1711 01:07:35,690 --> 01:07:33,180 the host or if it was calling show 1712 01:07:36,950 --> 01:07:35,700 callers would inevitably ask well these 1713 01:07:39,770 --> 01:07:36,960 are other people's stories do you have 1714 01:07:40,970 --> 01:07:39,780 any stories and that's where my strange 1715 01:07:43,370 --> 01:07:40,980 world came about this is 1716 01:07:46,130 --> 01:07:43,380 autobiographical this is just some of my 1717 01:07:49,010 --> 01:07:46,140 personal paranormal experiences and then 1718 01:07:51,410 --> 01:07:49,020 the new ones the NASA Park Mysteries and 1719 01:07:53,390 --> 01:07:51,420 disappearances series these are about 1720 01:07:57,130 --> 01:07:53,400 disappearances of people that go missing 1721 01:08:00,950 --> 01:07:57,140 strange cases but also when 1722 01:08:03,109 --> 01:08:00,960 to the next level includes lore ghost 1723 01:08:05,150 --> 01:08:03,119 stories a little bit of everything so 1724 01:08:07,309 --> 01:08:05,160 it's not just missing people especially 1725 01:08:08,690 --> 01:08:07,319 the one about the Smokies placing there 1726 01:08:11,450 --> 01:08:08,700 and dear to my heart I've got Cherokee 1727 01:08:14,569 --> 01:08:11,460 Legends in here I've got haunted hotels 1728 01:08:16,849 --> 01:08:14,579 and attractions and things and places 1729 01:08:18,410 --> 01:08:16,859 you can go and maybe see spirits that 1730 01:08:21,410 --> 01:08:18,420 was the first Vibe I dedicated a whole 1731 01:08:24,470 --> 01:08:21,420 book to the Smokies next Vibe was just a 1732 01:08:26,930 --> 01:08:24,480 little bit of California Yosemite Joshua 1733 01:08:29,269 --> 01:08:26,940 Tree at Mount Shasta places where I've 1734 01:08:32,090 --> 01:08:29,279 all had personal experiences uh Bill 1735 01:08:35,510 --> 01:08:32,100 melder the other half of missing persons 1736 01:08:38,749 --> 01:08:35,520 and Mysteries he was lost in Joshua Tree 1737 01:08:40,849 --> 01:08:38,759 I had a really strange experience out 1738 01:08:42,410 --> 01:08:40,859 there after Joshua tree and a bit up on 1739 01:08:44,030 --> 01:08:42,420 Mount shaston saying some stuff up there 1740 01:08:46,550 --> 01:08:44,040 third book in the series Pacific 1741 01:08:48,709 --> 01:08:46,560 Northwest Oregon Washington and Idaho 1742 01:08:50,990 --> 01:08:48,719 there's more in all this series coming 1743 01:08:53,809 --> 01:08:51,000 I'm working on three more right now but 1744 01:08:55,130 --> 01:08:53,819 those are all available on Amazon or as 1745 01:08:57,829 --> 01:08:55,140 my publisher likes for me to say 1746 01:08:59,870 --> 01:08:57,839 wherever fine books are sold they've got 1747 01:09:01,669 --> 01:08:59,880 barcodes they're listed in books in 1748 01:09:03,530 --> 01:09:01,679 print but if you just go on Amazon 1749 01:09:05,930 --> 01:09:03,540 search for Steve Stockton books you can 1750 01:09:07,430 --> 01:09:05,940 find them they are all wonderful books 1751 01:09:09,169 --> 01:09:07,440 they really are and I recommend them 1752 01:09:12,050 --> 01:09:09,179 they do enjoy the ones that I sent you 1753 01:09:13,910 --> 01:09:12,060 that I did they were really good I think 1754 01:09:16,249 --> 01:09:13,920 I just sent you the Paranormal ones I'll 1755 01:09:18,410 --> 01:09:16,259 send you the The Disappearance of the 1756 01:09:19,910 --> 01:09:18,420 kids too perfect I've read one of them I 1757 01:09:21,829 --> 01:09:19,920 picked one of them up on 1758 01:09:23,930 --> 01:09:21,839 them 1759 01:09:25,249 --> 01:09:23,940 oh my goodness I have to read the other 1760 01:09:27,650 --> 01:09:25,259 ones for sure 1761 01:09:29,209 --> 01:09:27,660 well thank you well thank you again so 1762 01:09:31,130 --> 01:09:29,219 much for being here I truly appreciate 1763 01:09:32,570 --> 01:09:31,140 it you will have to come back I will 1764 01:09:34,729 --> 01:09:32,580 come back anytime you'll have me thanks 1765 01:09:37,910 --> 01:09:34,739 to I see a lot of my people that are 1766 01:09:42,050 --> 01:09:37,920 here uh Jamie's here Amy 1767 01:09:43,910 --> 01:09:42,060 um cats on Parade my BFF and Melissa 1768 01:09:45,769 --> 01:09:43,920 Nicole all my people thank you for being 1769 01:09:48,229 --> 01:09:45,779 here I'll see you on the missing person 1770 01:09:50,030 --> 01:09:48,239 in the Ministries or 13 past midnight 1771 01:09:52,189 --> 01:09:50,040 soon take a little break I did the 31 1772 01:09:55,250 --> 01:09:52,199 nights of Halloween so we're not doing 1773 01:09:58,130 --> 01:09:55,260 anything over there for about a week but 1774 01:10:00,050 --> 01:09:58,140 we will be back definitely missing 1775 01:10:02,750 --> 01:10:00,060 person of Ministries that's ongoing we 1776 01:10:04,850 --> 01:10:02,760 we never sleep over there 1777 01:10:08,990 --> 01:10:04,860 thanks again Bernadette thank you again 1778 01:10:11,090 --> 01:10:09,000 Steve have a good night thank you bye 1779 01:10:13,070 --> 01:10:11,100 all right and thank everyone for being 1780 01:10:15,010 --> 01:10:13,080 here tonight I truly appreciate everyone 1781 01:10:20,030 --> 01:10:15,020 for showing up for the premiere episode 1782 01:10:22,850 --> 01:10:20,040 next week at 11 PM Eastern uh I think 1783 01:10:25,189 --> 01:10:22,860 8pm Central a little funky with time 1784 01:10:26,390 --> 01:10:25,199 difference Vincent Richardson will be 1785 01:10:28,010 --> 01:10:26,400 here and we will be talking about 1786 01:10:32,930 --> 01:10:28,020 conspiracies 1787 01:10:35,570 --> 01:10:32,940 so again please like share comment 1788 01:10:37,729 --> 01:10:35,580 and I hopefully will see you here again 1789 01:10:38,880 --> 01:10:37,739 next week thank you so much again guys